A Fellow I Know

Simple Simon!! Buddy, I'm gonna call you my new Baptist Board friend!!!

All the stuff that you just wrote about--the KJV only, skirt wearin', no hair touchin' the collar for the guys, etc.---sometimes its all a part of the rules you see a lot in the fundamental circles.

Personally, I preach and study from the KJV--Scofield and Zodhiates study Bibles--not because its a rule set by the Lord Jesus--but personally I prefer the KJV because of the rich English wording. More words there to challenge the mind to study and see why that word is there! God Almighty ain't gonna strike me with lightning if I happen to be reading some particular day from my New American Standard--now, I can get struck by lightning by foolishly exposing myself to a violent thunderstorm--but not by exposing myself to and reading another translation! See what I mean??

As far as women wearing skirts--no rule that says you can or can't in the word. Women can dress modestly as to please the mind of Christ.(Personally as a pastor I would draw a line somewhere--something like--no "Daisy Duke" shorts or dress--you get the drift??!! If your wife wants to wear skirts to church on Sunday mornin' and then switch to bluejeans at nite--hey, tell her to go ahead!

But all in all--I see what you are sayin'--hang in there with us--keep comin' to the Baptist Board--keep writin' what you have on your heart--the right "board" buddies will come along--they'll step forward and be your friend--no matter if you read the KJ only--or if your wife wears jeans or skirts or if you have a go-tee beard--or what--they'll be your friend for who you are not by what you read or wear!!

Your Southern Baptist preachin' buddy,
Blackbird

 

I would strongly suggest that you visit a variety of churches. Not all of them are as legalistic as the one that you are mentioning. There are quite a few other Baptist, Bible-believing churches who use the NIV, who allow women to wear shorts, and who are truly experiencing God, using contemporary music and life-applicable teachings! God will undoubtedly bless you in your journey!

 

What sounds sad is that your friend apparently found one of the IFB churches that puts more emphasis on outward appearance than inward change.

I could go through your post point-for-point, Simple Simon, but let me just address this: Yes, Jesus sat with the prostitutes and the sinners.

But did He behave and act like them?

 

I think you got the wrong idea of IFB. I am one and I firmly believe in what I am taught.

We do socialize with friends who are not saved, naturally we try to witness to them but my friends I will keep no matter what. I do not judge anyone, it is not my place to do so. I see all as humans.

Women are suppose to wear dresses and skirts. I wear dresses and skirts to church, but I wear pants in my everyday life. I don't wear shorts outside the home or tank tops because it is inapropriate. But I wear capris and tees.

Women are not to be preachers. It just is not biblical. Men are to preach.

Yes, radio and tv are a means of the devil to draw you in. That is why you have to choose wisely what you and your family watch. Or listen to. You do not have to give it up altogether.

KJV is the truest form of Gods word. Other bibles are a perversion of His word. Other bibles leave things out for convienence sake. Left out because maybe it offended someone. Gods word is Gods word. ALL of it. That is why we use KJVO. If you would like literature on the subject I would be happy to get it to you.
I don't know why is telling your friend all of these things, but he may also be distorting what he hears. It is very easy to take something out of context.

No matter why, ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED! You can not be "UNSAVED". You can be backslidden, but not unsaved.

If I can be any assistance to you at all in helping you or your friend to understand any of the points you mentioned you can PM me and I will be more than glad to help.

 

Sounds like your friend's church could be demonstrating some very cultic behavior. I've found that few denominations are immune to this. In the baptist circles they sometimes are repesented by the extreme fundamentalists. Now take into account that if these churches stipulate these rules as requirements for their order then by subscribing to that order you should obey them. They also should not have a problem if you wish to leave or they shouldn't judge everyones walk with the Lord according to their own requirements that they have set for themselves. I've found that few Baptist churches fit the definition of a cult however. Most of what I've seen has been with Charismatic circles and "discipleship" or "mentoring". Thats all about control and a person should run away quickly from anything like that.

 

Please tell your friend to get as far away from this church you describe as he can. They are obviously very cultic. Also ignore anyone who says that the KJV is the only bible in English, such as Laura B. This belief is simply inconsistent with what the Bible teaches. Also, don't listen to this trash about women having to wear dresses or skirts. Again, this is not biblical.

You seem to already have a better understanding of what Jesus actually taught and expects than many here on this board who have been here for months, if not years.

Beware of many legalistic cults that try to pass themselves off as Churches.

 

And now, Terry, utilize that "better understanding" and apologize to Linda B, that she might learn from your example....

Funny how the IFBer's get the label "self-righteous"....

 

Simon, you're on a good line of thought, but unfortunately you just have to expect situations like you described with your friend, and posters like this LauraB character who try to reinforce completely extrabiblical beliefs. Blessings.

 

Don,
Let me say that I did not intend to insult anyone. I do not question Laura B's sincerity or her love for God. This issue, however, goes beyond this.

I believe that this KJVO belief is one of the most dangerous doctrines the the church faces today. It is for that reason that I am quick to speak out against it.

When I was a older teenager I was saved. Unfortunately, it was at a church much like the one described above. It has taken much of my adult life to finally get away from these Pharisees.

 

First Of all, I am not a "character" I am a christian woman, wife and mother. And as such I will not now bow down to your level. I don't think I have said anything out of line here and was sincerely trying to help.

KVO.........IFB

 

All I can say is that fruit trees produce fruit. Where there is fruit there is life and energy.
Jesus said in Matthew 4:19, "Follow Me and I wil make you fishers of men."

If there is no fish being caught go to a watering hole where the people know how to catch fish. Some talk about fishing and others do it and are successful. I want to be around people who are successful and God is blessing. God only blesses doers. James 1:22 says, "But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves."

 

The matter of which Bible translation to use is obviously one of those things that each believer must decide for himself by first studying the matter, and then submitting the decision humbly to God for His direction. The Bible gives no command on the subject of translation; thus no Christian has a right to make edicts concerning which version others should use. They may do it anyway, but we can safely ignore them, which I do.

 

tell me what is un-biblical about lauraBs statements? she has explained it well and her opinion is very good. I use KJV only because the arguments are very good toward other translations. I want Gods pure Word with nothing left out dont you? modest dress is biblical that is why laura explained it. wearing a dress vs. jeans is a personal decision not really a biblical issue. if someone claims that wearing a dress is ok and jeans are a sin or immodest then they have a weak biblical case.

 

Massdak said,
"tell me what is un-biblical about lauraBs statements?"

KJVonlyism is not Scriptural. If you think it is you are wrong. Period. Does that answer your question?