A Lifelong Democrat Switches To McCain

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ps104_33, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. Ps104_33

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    "The fact that we would be electing someone with only one parent born in the US to our highest office is also important. For some time, I fooled myself into believing that this was a good thing. But in truth, it gives power to those who have little or no respect for our country.
    The need for better management than Obama will or could ever bring to any entity is another factor. I trust McCain in part because I trust his judgment. I have no respect or trust for Obama. He is a risk at every turn because, unlike a military commander, he commands his own decisions and will not countenance anyone else to make suggestions that would change him from his fundamental objective of "change."





    http://cliffpotter.newsvine.com/_ne...mccain-a-clinton-supporters-personal-journey-
     
  2. Martin

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    I agree with this gentleman's concern about Barak Obama. I am afraid that too many people are getting so caught up in the "movement of change" that they are not thinking clearly about how Obama would bring about that change.

    Obama's ideas of change are simple:

    1. Punish the successful people in America, and their children, with high taxes and slander them every chance you get. Ignore the hard work they did to become successful and accuse them of being lazy and selfish. Punish their children by taxing their inheritance. Make less successful people jealous of them.

    2. Reward the lazy people of our society. Give them "free" healthcare, education, and other such social programs, since they "can't afford" to have those things (though they can afford that big screen tv and the fancy cell phone). Force those who work hard for a living to pay for the healthcare of those who do nothing or do as little as they can. Make the lazy believe that it is their "right" to be supported by people who actually work for a living.

    3. Teach people to look to the federal government to solve their problems. No matter the problem, big papa government has the answer (or so says Obama).

    I could go on, but I think those three points cover the main things. Obama's "change" is nothing but the same old liberal song and dance. Obama's policies are dangerous. If he becomes President he, or Hillary, will bankrupt our country with expensive social programs and handouts to lazy people who refuse to work. His programs are unBiblical and unconstitutional.

    VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN IN 2008!!! :thumbs:


     
  3. KenH

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    "The fact that we would be electing someone with only one parent born in the US to our highest office is also important."

    Why would a person make such an insipid statement as this? It calls into question the character and intelligence of a person who would make it.
     
  4. Dagwood

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    They aren't even near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to attacks on Obama's name, past, family, friends, etc. These people have learned from the lowest bottom-feeder of all time, Karl Rove.

    In the end though, it will not matter, Obama will be the next president of the United States, I believe!
     
  5. Magnetic Poles

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    Unbbelievable! The ridiculous fearmongering seen here baffles the rational mind.
     
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    Good post. No matter what fascists say.
     
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    Public education a social program? Maybe so but it is ingrained into our national history since before the founding fathers. Those "hated liberals" had nothing to do with it's establishment.

    The first American public school was authorized on January 2, 1643 by the Town of Dedham in the Massachusetts Bay Colony — nearly 150 years before the establishment of the United States.

    The Regents of the University of the State of New York, established on 1 May 1784, was the first accrediting agency in the United States. It was a collective of public and private schools, as well as libraries, museums, etc. It is affiliated with the New York State Department of Education.

    After the Revolution, the U.S. began to stress importance on education, focusing on elementary (K-8th grade) education. Schools were publicly supplied, but not free. Until the 1830s, public mass education remained a social issue. Education reformers such as Horace Mann helped jump start the common school movement. In 1837, Mann became the first Secretary of the Board of Education for Massachusetts. Mann was at the forefront in promoting the institution of common schools. His influence on education in Massachusetts soon spread to the U.S. as a whole. By 1870, all states provided free elementary schooling.

    The Land Ordinance of 1785 established a mechanism for funding public education in the United States. Until at least the 1840s, however, most schools continued to be privately owned and operated[1].

    The Michigan Legislature established the Michigan State Normal School in 1849, the first teacher-training institution west of Albany, New York, and only the sixth in the nation. Elevated to collegiate status within a few years, the Michigan State Normal College became Eastern Michigan College in 1956 and Eastern Michigan University in 1959. Founded as a co-educational institution, it was the first institution of higher learning to serve both men and women in Michigan, and one of the first in the nation.
     
  8. Ps104_33

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    Dont forget Magnetic poles, that this man has been a demoncrat all his life so he is not stable in his mind. This decision to vote for John McCain could mean that he is getting psychiatric help. Why dont you pray for him instead of being so mean-spirited.
     
  9. KenH

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    It's all the Republicans and the right-wingers have to offer nowadays, MP - fear. If they can't make people scared then the Republicans can't win national elections. The Republicans can't get most people to vote for them so they have to try to convince enough people to vote against Democrats so that they can wield the levers of power in Washington.

    It is a shame to see what has become of the Ronald Reagan party of hope and optimism.
     
  10. KenH

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    It is nice to the Christian attributes of graciousness and charity exhibited so well in your life. :rolleyes:
     
  11. KenH

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    Will the folks on your side please make up your minds - am I a communist, a socialist, or a fascist? You folks are contradicting yourselves in your attacks on we progressives/liberals.
     
  12. StefanM

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    No kidding. I wouldn't call myself a liberal (except fiscally), but to lump socialists, communists, and fascists all together in a bunch is woefully misinformed and fundamentally ignorant of history. I don't see mindless flag waving by the liberals, as you would expect with a fascist party. I also don't recall the Democrats arguing for the nationalization of industry, either.

    With the rhetoric on this board, you'd think Jesus and John D. Rockefeller were brothers.
     
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  13. KenH

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    Ditto that. I am just playing along with the Republican/conservative posters in their attacks on me. :)
     
  14. Martin

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    ==I was not talking about public schools. I was referring to Obama's plan for college/higher education. Obama wants us, the hard working tax payers, to pay college tuition for people who refuse to work hard or who mis-manage their money.

    I am a college instructor and I know what happens when you give lazy people money to go to college. Many, but by no means all, of these people are the exact same lazy people that Obama is promising the world to. When they get into college they don't work, they don't turn in assignments, and then they get mad when they fail. We don't need these lazy people in colleges. I have no problem with helping people who truly need and desire help. I do, however, have a big problem with blanket social programs that passes out benefits to people who claim they can't afford healthcare, tuition, insurance, etc, but they have enough money to buy a big screen tv and the top of the line cell phone. They don't need assistance and they should not get any.
     
  15. StefanM

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    I guess I am liberal compared to the general tenor of this board. IMO, the brand of conservatism on this board feels like it's from the late 1800s.
     
  16. Ps104_33

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    Sorry KenH. An inadvertant typo on my part.:laugh: A little Freudian slip of the keyboard.
     
  17. StefanM

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    Even if you have money, try getting individual health care if you have more than a cold in your medical history. You MIGHT get approved, but you're going to have so many permanent exclusions on you that you'll never be able to go to the doctor for anything you actually need.
     
  18. KenH

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    Martin,

    Do you get equally outraged when the big banks and Wall Street firms get bailed out by the federal government?
     
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    Actually both political parties do this. Republicans do it with terrorism and war while democrats do it with healthcare, civil rights, and other such issues.
     
  20. KenH

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    If you say so. :)
     

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