A Neocon Admits the Plan to Bomb Iran

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  1. poncho

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    Exclusive: The neocon Washington Post, which wants to kill the talks aimed at constraining Iran’s nuclear program, allowed a contrary opinion of sorts onto its pages – a neocon who also wants to collapse the talks but is honest enough to say that the follow-up will be a U.S. war on Iran, reports Robert Parry.

    By Robert Parry

    Not exactly known for truthfulness, U.S. neocons have been trying to reassure the American people that sinking a negotiated deal with Iran to limit its nuclear program would be a painless proposition, but at least one prominent neocon, Joshua Muravchik, acknowledges that the alternative will be war – and he likes the idea.

    On Sunday, the neocon Washington Post allowed Muravchik to use its opinion section to advocate for an aggressive war against Iran – essentially a perpetual U.S. bombing campaign against the country – despite the fact that aggressive war is a violation of international law, condemned by the post-World War II Nuremberg Tribunal as “the supreme international crime.”

    Given that the Post is very restrictive in the op-ed pieces that it prints, it is revealing that advocacy for an unprovoked bombing campaign against Iran is considered within the realm of acceptable opinion. But the truth is that the only difference between Muravchik’s view and the Post’s own editorial stance is that Muravchik lays out the almost certain consequences of sabotaging a diplomatic solution.

    In his article headlined “War is the only way to stop Iran” in print editions and “War with Iran is probably our best option” online, Muravchik lets the bloody-thirsty neocon cat out of the bag as he agrees with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s hysterical view of Iran but recognizes that killing international negotiations on limiting Iran’s nuclear program would leave open only one realistic option:

    Read More At: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/16/a-neocon-admits-the-plan-to-bomb-iran/
     
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    [​IMG][​IMG]Washington Post is neocon![​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    For Americans who hear the name Washington Post and still think of “All the President’s Men” – brave journalists facing down a corrupt President – today’s version of the newspaper would be a sad disappointment, a betrayal of a noble past.

    Over the last three decades, the Post has evolved into a neoconservative propaganda sheet, especially its opinion section which fronted for George W. Bush’s false Iraq-WMD claims, led the long-term bashing of Iraq War critics, and defends whatever actions the Israeli government takes, including the recent war in Gaza and apparently its desire to preemptively bomb Iran.

    Rather than a newspaper committed to the truth and favoring a broad debate about important issues, the Washington Post has become an enforcement mechanism for a neocon-dominated Establishment, setting the parameters for permissible points of view and twisting facts for that purpose.

    A recent example of this enforcement role was its March 12 lead editorial trashing former U.S. Ambassador Charles “Chas” Freeman for issuing a two-page statement pointing out that his nomination to serve as a top intelligence analyst had been torpedoed by Washington’s powerful Israel Lobby.

    To the Post’s editors, however, there apparently is no Israel Lobby; there has been no large-scale organized effort to bend U.S. foreign policy to the interests of Israeli governments over the years. Even the suggestion that such a body exists is a sign of delusion, bigotry and a conspiratorial mindset.

    Read More At: https://consortiumnews.com/2009/031509.html

    After reading your reply OR the question of "what do you do with all those wooden nickels anyway?" popped into my mind. :smilewinkgrin:

    And now this question comes to mind. You've claimed on several occasions that you don't even know what a neocon is so how can you possibly tell that the Washington Post isn't a neocon echo chamber? It sure has been acting in that capacity. You know the old saying . . . "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like duck".
     
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    Just a shame.
     
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    What more can i say ponch than I have already said. But one more time!

     
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    I notice you say quite a bit lately that you can't prove. Even when you're given a whole year to do it. Then you try to cover it up by acting childish and making us all sit through your own personal version of "stupid pet tricks" as if that lends you credibility.

    It's pretty sad a grown man like you has to act that way.

    If I were you I'd be asking myself why I couldn't find any evidence to support all the allegations I'd been unquestioningly repeating as if they were already proven fact.

    But I guess you and I have different definitions of evidence.

    Here's mine.

    Evidence: the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid.

    By contrast your definition of evidence must be "what ever the corporate talking heads say, over and over and over and over . . .".
     
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    OldRegular is to the GOP what he and others have said black people are to the Democrat Party.

    He's going to support the GOP no matter what because the PERCEPTION of who they are is part of his identity.

    If you showed him proof that 27.4 million babies had been aborted by members of the GOP, he'd still support them because members of the Democrats had aborted 27.6 million.

    It's not issue driven. It's not morality driven. He has just simply really grown to hate, like Rev and some others, the Democrat Party and its membership.

    That's why you'll never convince him that the neocons are just as bad as the Dems.
     
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    The democrat party has sold themselves into slavery to Baal! You know who Baal is don't you? Pagans sacrificed their children to Baal.
     
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    Global Threat? US Policymakers Admit Iran is Defending Itself

    March 16, 2015 (Tony Cartalucci - NEO) - US policymakers admit that Iran's strategy is "largely defensive," and both aggressive and defensive tendencies are largely in response to US policy in the Middle East and Central Asia.

    The US-based RAND Corporation, which describes itself as "a nonprofit institution that helps improve policy and decisionmaking through research and analysis," produced a report in 2009 for the US Air Force titled, "Dangerous But Not Omnipotent : Exploring the Reach and Limitations of Iranian Power in the Middle East," examining the structure and posture of Iran's military, including its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and weapons both present, and possible future, it seeks to secure its borders and interests with against external aggression.

    The report admits that:

    Iran’s strategy is largely defensive, but with some offensive elements. Iran’s strategy of protecting the regime against internal threats, deterring aggression, safeguarding the homeland if aggression occurs, and extending influence is in large part a defensive one that also serves some aggressive tendencies when coupled with expressions of Iranian regional aspirations. It is in part a response to U.S. policy pronouncements and posture in the region, especially since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. The Iranian leadership takes very seriously the threat of invasion given the open discussion in the United States of regime change, speeches defining Iran as part of the “axis of evil,” and efforts by U.S. forces to secure base access in states surrounding Iran.

    Such a narrative stands in direct contradiction of daily propaganda emanating from Western media monopolies portraying Iran as a global threat to peace and stability, and in particular, "bent on" attacking the US and its allies, particularly Israel, for no other reason but fulfilling fanatical, ideological hatred.

    Continue . . . http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2015/03/global-threat-us-policymakers-admit.html
     
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    Muravchik, like everyone else, is entitled to his opinion.

    Just as those who have the opinion that Iran's intentions are peaceful. An opinion that's based more on wishful thinking than facts and known history, but they're still entitled to be just as mistaken as anyone else.
     
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    The Muslim lobby seem to have just as much influence on Obama. Is there any real difference?

    Except for their end goal...

    For Israel, survival. For muslims, world domination. Not much difference at all.
     
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    It's looking more and more like both parties have sold themselves into slavery to the banksters, corporitos, the Israeli lobby and the military industrial complex.

    None of them have any qualms about sacrificing our children for more territory and profit and they don't care if our children are democrats or republicans.
     
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    No more so than the Republican Party. So if you've got stats on how many Democrats vs Republicans are getting abortions, please share.

    Otherwise you don't know if the Republicans or the Democrats are sacrificing their children to Baal, one more than the other.

    I don't recall anybody saying they were asked what their political affiliation is upon going to get an abortion.
     
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    “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted.”
    – Dwight D. Eisenhower
     

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