A new Theory

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  1. Salty

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    Just doing some checking - and wow, look what I found about BO

    Here is the link where I found this

    [​IMG] jan says:
    October 25, 2008 at 22:36
    I’ve not had a child so I never had to fill out the application for a birth certificate for a child, but i’ve done a little research. To get a birth certificate issued for a child, the parent(s) fill out an application. The parent certifies the accuracy of the information by signing a section which essentially states the information provided is accurate. (like the verification statement you sign when filling out your tax return which verifies the accuracy of the information).

    If a child is born in a hospital, a hospital staff person certifies the information in one section of the application and provides the staff person’s name and the hospital where birth occured.

    However, not all children are born in a hospital so this hospital certification is not required in order to issue the birth certificate.

    Therefore, it is possible that the canidate’s mother delivered her son in Kenya, possibly because most airlines won’t let you fly after a certain date in your pregnancy. After, his birth in Kenya, his mother and he arrive in Hawaii. She gets the application to apply for a birth certificate and to avoid “problems” — she’s about 18 remember, she just puts down that he was born in Honololu, Hawaii. And signs the document.

    She’s not a lawyer, probably can’t afford to consult with an immigration lawyer if she thought about it and she is likely not an expert on Immigration and Citizenship laws. All she wants is a birth certificate for her son and she’s a U.S. Citizen right? What’s the harm. None really until her son decides to enter politics and run for president of the United States which requires that all canidates be “natural born” citizens of the U.S. i.e. born in the U.S. or conferred that status under the Immigration and Citizenship laws at the time of birth. Naturalized citizen is one who applies for citizenship as an immigrant or if child born abroad and seeks to assert child’s right to dual citizenship (where parents of child are of different citizenships). The Constitution does not allow one who holds the status of “naturalized” citizen to qualify to run or act as president of our country.

    So, what is needed is either an original (Vault) birth certificate showing the hospital, or the application which shows the hospital staff person and hospital where he was born in Hawaii, or the actual hospital records.

    Otherwise, all we are relying upon is an eighteen year old girl’s assertion of where her son was born. Given the alleged statements by his paternal grandmother circulating around the web that the grandmother was at his birth in Kenya, the question is a legitimate one given the constitutional requirement that one be a born in U.S. to run and act as president of the U.S.

    If he was born in Kenya, then the Immigration/Citizenship statutes govern whether she can confer “natural born” citizenship status. According to the lawsuit filed by a former Deputy Attorney General for Penn., the applicable statute in 1961 stated that for a U.S. citizen to give this status to their child born abroad at least one parent must have resided in U.S. for 10 years before the child’s birth AND the parent had to reside in U.S. for 5 of those years after age 14. His mother was 18 when he was born, not 19, so she wasn’t eligible to confer “natural born” status to her son Barack if he was indeed born abroad.

    I am curious why his maternal grandparents haven’t spoken up to clarify the issue as one would think they would know where their daughter was while she was pregnant and where she was when she gave birth….unless they were not in contact with their 18 year old daughter during this time period.

    I also would not just assume everything is fine and this is all just speculation if I were you. It isn’t as if politicians haven’t misrepresented themselves before. In Clayton county Georgia last summer one of the elected school board members lied about his residence during his campaign and had to step down after his election to the Board when it was confirmed he didn’t even live in the district he ran in as required by law.

    If eventually it is confirmed Senator Obama was born in Kenya not Hawaii, then Joe Biden gets to be president.

    The sad part is Senator Obama may not know all of this if his mother never told him what she did.

    Any thoughts.

    Regardless it needs to be addressed. And yes the certificate on the website does not note the hospital and is a computer generated copy.
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    Thoughts!!!
     
  2. Arbo

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    Isn't it interesting how sometimes the seemingly smallest things have the biggest influences on events? (if this theory turns out to be true)
     
  3. Salty

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    This past year a lawyer registered to run for a judgeship in Oswego County. After the Post-Standard did a bit of checking they found his "home address" was actually a business and nobody there even knew him. He actually lived outside the county - but used that address so he could run for judge.
    He finally withdrew his paperwork.
    Hmmm
     

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