A New Type of Christian Political Discussion

He may have said it. He may even be lost. But it is not unforgivable.

 

Well don't all eventually get to God? Some by way of salvation through Jesus alone or by way of the Great White Throne and eternal judgment.

 

Hasn't Obama said the same thing?

 

Yes he has. The point is that error on this point is not an unforgivable sin. As I read the text of Scripture there is only one unforgivable sin and it is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. The context of that passage reveals that Jesus was teaching that blaspheming the Holy Spirit is when one gives credit to the devil for the work of the Triune God.

Jesus said this in response to the fact that the scribes from Jerusalem said, "He has Beelzebub," and "By the ruler of the demons He casts out demons" (Mark 3:22, NKJV).

Jesus made it clear that the only unforgivable sin is blaspheming the Holy Spirit (i.e. attributing the work of the Triune God to that of the devil). Now, since Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God it is in fact impossible to be attributing the work of the Triune God to the devil by claiming that Muslims and Christians worship the same God. It is a false statement, but it does not attribute the work of the Triune God to the devil. It only speaks of the worship of men. The statement says nothing about the work of God.

Likewise, for someone speaking of Christians and Mulsims to say: "We have different routes of getting to the Almighty" again says nothing about the work of the Triune God. It only speaks of the religon of men (one true and one false). No one has ever been saved (i.e. born again) by the false teachings of Islam. Therefore, it is impossible to ever attribute true eternal salvation to the works and false teachings of Islam and thereby give credit for the devil for the work of the Triune God.

So, neither President Bush nor President-elect Obama balsphemed the Holy Spirit when that made similar universalist comments. Here again, this is an off-topic subject for another thread.

 

Well of course there is another answer. You have fallen prey to a formal fallacy here. Your two suggested either/or options are not the only two possible options. It could be that we have not done anything that violates the BB Posting Rules and/or User Agreement (or the tried and true methods of orderly discourse and debate) and that you are simply wrong in your conclusion(s). However, like I said please feel free to report any bad posts that you feel somehow violate the BB Posting Rules and/or User Agreement and wait for the forum Mods/Admins to act on the issue.

 

I am a Moderator on the BaptistBoard. However, I am not a Moderator of this specific forum (meaning I can't edit or delete other's posts in this forum). I don't have the abillity to do what you are asking me to do with respect to the post you reference. Likewise, you have no way of knowing whether or not I reported the post you are referencing as a bad post to the Mods/Admins of this forum. Furthermore, when I pointed out that we were getting off-topic from the OP at the conclusion of my post, which you quoted above, I did so in attempt to get everyone to stop that line of discussion and return to the subject of the OP. Finally, my post was responding to Palatka51 not to you so I don't know why you have reacted toward me in this way. I understand that you may not know exactly how the Baptist Board Moderator/Administrator team works. However, now that I have enlightened you a bit in that regard I'll graciously accept your apology, in the spirit of the topic of this thread, for implying that I have not moderated with an even hand.

 

Don't hold your breath, Bible Boy! This kind doesn't apologize.......except after much prayer and fasting....

Appropriate for this section (i.e. Politics)........ many promises are made but no change.:laugh:

 

Me thinks me should rethink joining here?

 

Naw,

Stick around and see if the folks who promised in this thread to post in a more Christ-like fashion live up to the agreement or not.

Oh... welcome aboard.:wavey:

 

Folks, this thread has reached the 10 page limit & is now being closed.

LE