A P.S. on the George Carlin Post

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    by Ingrid Schlueter

    And to make matters worse he endeared himself to children through the PBS series "Thomas the Tank Engine" and as I stated before, that is evil at its best.

     
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    Thanks for Nothing, George Carlin

    Well, the tributes to comedian George Carlin have been flowing around the world since his death. Flowery-worded eulogies, tender laments, and warm words of gratitude and thanksgiving for his contributions to American culture are posted all over the Internet, and those are just the Christian blogs. The headline on Fox News showed his photo with the subtitle, “Drugs, Dirty Words Were Subject of Routines”. Mourning the passing of Mr. Carlin with a great deal of pathos, including a big thank-you to him for bringing so much laughter into the world, is this Christian blog. It is singularly fitting that what passes for Christianity today would celebrate the life and comedic routines of George Carlin. In fact, based on the language and spirit of much in the purportedly Christian blog world today, I would say that there is no better representative icon of post-Christian Christianity than George Carlin. iMonk’s website begins by saying this:

    Those of you with the list of who is going to hell will just have to restrain yourself from posting names, because I’m not going to have that stuff in my comments.

    That’s right. The Scriptures already give us a rundown on who cannot be a part of the Kingdom of Heaven. We don’t need anyone’s opinion on who goes to hell or heaven. Scripture already tells us.

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

    I Corinthians 6:9-11 ESV

    George Carlin made history in my city back in 1972. A policeman and his wife and little boy decided to attend the comedy event at our city’s SummerFest by the lakefront. Within minutes, the police officer, his wife and son, as well as everyone else in attendance, was hit in the face with the filthiest language that exists. This non-Christian police officer, in possession of a greater sense of decency than most professing Christians today, got up and promptly did something about it. Carlin was in violation of several city ordinances on obscenity, and he was arrested and taken to jail for his conduct. Carlin’s response years later?

    “It wouldn’t have changed anything I did if I had known there were children in the audience,” Carlin said. “In fact… I think children need to hear those words the most because as yet they don’t have the hang ups, it’s adults who are locked in to certain thought patterns.”

    Yes, we in America owe a great deal to George Carlin and his “7 Words You Can’t Say on Television” routine. George served as one more valiant foot soldier in the cultural war that now gives my children the opportunity to read headlines like “Hot Taboo S–” while they stand in line at the grocery store with their mother to buy milk. Carlin deserves some sort of posthumous medal for doing his part in helping the cause of public obscenity and indecency in all areas of American life. Talk about a profile in courage. It takes a real man to introduce children to filthy words and rob them of their innocence. It takes a true American hero to take lavatorial language and spew it on stage in front of families. Bring out the laurel wreaths, the medals, the flowers. Yes, we owe a great deal to George Carlin in this country, emerging pastors in particular. In some small way, George has given many of them the moral courage to use toilet speech in the pulpit in their quest for realness. We all know that being real requires the use of vulgarities and obscenities. Anyone who doesn’t is a complete hypocritical fraud deserving of jeers and sneers of the highest order. George Carlin talked about his grandparents having s-x in the most obscene manner? How real is that? If he had lived, he could have been guest speaker at any number of cool churches today.

    George Carlin’s hatred for God and the Bible resulted in a tragic life of a little over 70 years. The fruit of his life was the promotion and celebration of everything that God clearly forbids. This is a cause for sadness. George had no answers for America’s sin problem. He could only joke about the wages of sin which is death. He could only mock and blaspheme the God who created Him. But at the end of the laughing, there is the reality of eternity, and every human knows it inside (Proverbs 14:6). Our only refuge from sin and its terrible destruction is in the cross of Christ. Only the cleansing blood of Jesus can wash us from the filthiness of our sin. George Carlin’s life is a cautionary tale. The laughter someday will all be gone, and when we stand before our holy God, only those clothed in the righteousness of Christ will find God to be their friend.

    by Ingrid Schlueter
     
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    Thomas the Tank Engine evil? This must obviously be completely different from the "Thomas the Tank Engine" known to generations of British children! This one was a "character" in a series of books for children written hust after the Second World War by Anglican clergyman, Rev Wilbert Awdry. He (Thomas, not Rev Awdry!) looks like this:

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    He wasn't saying that TTTE is evil.
     
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    I think one of the Baldwin brothers does the Thomas cartoon here, if I remember. It's been a couple years since I've watched it. Don't ask me which Baldwin, they all look alike to me!

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    George narrated several seasons, and played the part of Mr. Conductor.

    Hard to see evil in an innocent children's TV show, unless it's those gay guys named Tinky Winky and Sponge Bob, and your name was Jerry Falwell. :laugh:
     
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    Alex.........
     
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    It is George Carlin being presented as a kind fatherly figure in the role of Mr Conductor that I find offensive. When his "comic" routine would be inconsiderate of children in his audience. I refer you to the quote in the op.

    I personally have nothing against "Thomas the Tank Engine" or "Tinky Winky" and the "Telly Tubbies".

    Trying to paint me as a fanatical idiot will not work Maggy!
     
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    Another foul mouthed celebrity. :BangHead:
     
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    Well, the actor who is doing the narrating never actually appears on screen, except for his voice. And the children watching that show can't even read yet, so they don't know who is playing what character. My kids have no idea who George Carlin or Alex Baldwin is, much less what foul words they have said. So I'm not sure why Thomas the Train would be a bad thing for them to watch.

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    I didn't attempt to do so, Pally! :laugh:
     
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    Who said it was?
     
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    Thanks, Revmitchell! I realised too late that I had misunderstood, and that he was saying that he was making himself "friendly" to little children by appearing in, or at least narrating, "Thomas the Tank Engine". Sorry.
     
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    Mr. Lamb, I believe it was Ringo Starr who did the British version.
     
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    Yes, he was one who narrated the stories in TV series based on the original books. Johnny Morris was another.
     
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    It's ok then to have a PEE WEE Herman mc a kid's tv show then as long as the programing is cutesy.
    Even the networks have a line they are not willing to cross and had him pulled from their children's Sat am lineup after what he did. PBS seems to care less by having a foul mouthed comic that has an agenda to corrupt kids by spewing his filth and that is his own confession. What better way to endear himself to impressionable children then what he did as the Mr Conductor?

    I repeat, it is not Thomas the Tank Engine thats a bad thing.

    Good riddance George Carlin. Oh that Bob Keeshan* could be here to post a response to children's tv.

    * It is my contention that most people are not mugged every day, that most people in this world do not encounter violence every day. I think we prepare people for violence, and I think it just as important that we prepare people for the definition of being gentle. ... for so many years gentle has been equated with weakness but it requires more strength to be gentle. So it's the every day encounters of life that I think we prepare children for and prepare them to be good to other people and to consider other people.
    o NPR interview with Carl Kasell (1984) partly rebroadcast in "'Captain Kangaroo' Dies at 76" in All Things Considered (NPR) (23 January 2004)
     
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    My point is that my kids are not looking at George Carlin. He's just reading off some lines, that, frankly, my children have since outgrown. They have no idea that it is George Carlin, what his seven words are, or if it's just some random guy off the street reading the script. Actually, at that age, they probably believe Thomas lived inside the TV! I had no idea until DH read the credits one time and remarked on it, (although, I guess he has since been replaced by Alex Baldwin, who knows?). I have no idea why the creators chose Carlin to do the voice over, but really, there is nothing in the show to indicate he had anything to do with the storyline or the dialogue, other than read off a few lines. I'd say, if nothing else, it's the one positive thing I can say about his entire career. Personally, I found his standup routine to be really offensive, and I guess that made him happy.

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    Yep, that just about says it all. :laugh:
     
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    Sad, He might have been an uniformed foul mouthed idiot, but is it a laughing matter that he might be in hell right now? What if God had taken you out of this world when you were still a foul mouthed drunkard or whatever you were before you got saved, would it be funny then? I'm not downing you but, it isn't even remotely funny when someone dies probably lost.
     
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