A Question For Roman Catholics

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  1. BBNewton

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    Hi all,

    This is Canon V of the Justification segment of the Council of Trent:

    CANON V.-If any one saith, that, since Adam's sin, the free will of man is lost and extinguished; or, that it is a thing with only a name, yea a name without a reality, a figment, in fine, introduced into the Church by Satan; let him be anathema.
    http://www.cfpeople.org/Apologetics/page51a038.html

    The RCC apparently framed this particular condemnation for Luther, Calvin, and the Protestants. Is this still the official stance of the RCC reguarding Reformed folks like me?
     
  2. Kathryn

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    From what I understand this means if you were a Catholic this would be an excommunication. If you are not Catholic you are not in communion with the Church, so you can't be excommunicated. Excommunication is a method of church discipline to remove people who don't want to leave, but want to teach or hold to beliefs or practices that goes against the teachings of the faith. It says here it is speaking of a false belief that has been introduced into the Church without being a true teaching of the Church. It is housecleaning.

    [ March 23, 2004, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: Kathryn ]
     
  3. BBNewton

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    No, this statement is not one of excommunication. It is a statement of eternal condemnation.

    If the official stance of the Roman Catholic Church is eternal condemnation of people who believe in Reformed theology (this would include C.H. Spurgeon, John Piper, James White; in fact thousands of evangelicals), how are we to hold fellowship with you?
     
  4. trying2understand

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    You are mistaken on this.

    It is excommunication.

    Only God can condemn to hell.

    Yoou may read about it here...

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01455e.htm
     
  5. Dan Stiles

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    It is a different theological definition of the term "the free will of man." It's an apples and oranges type of thing.
     

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