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A Question of Sots

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Aaron, Oct 11, 2007.

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  1. Aaron

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    When is a man drunk?

    The winebibbers and teetotalers in the "wine" thread all agree that intoxication is a sin. The statutes say you're jeopardizing the lives of others when you drive with a BAC of .08%, even though at the party you don't feel or look impaired.

    So, if at the party, you don't feel or look impaired with a BAC of .08%, are you still guilty of the sin of drunkenness?

    Or did you only become guilty when you got behind the wheel?

    What do you think?
     
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    at .08 you are guilty of driving under the influence according to government standards...not God's. We are to obey our government, though, so driving would be a sin. I don't agree .08 is intoxication. It varies depending on sex, size, build, etc. For a look at what drunkeness is or intoxication, look at how Noah and Lot acted. It's a loos of control of the body.
     
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    Actually, one is legally guilty of a DUI with any amount of alcohol in the body. .08 is a separate count regarding vehicle code, and the penalty is not much greater than if you sipped some cough syrup.
    Before the .08%, it was higher at .10%.

    Most people are not drunk at .08%
     
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    So you have to be passed out to be considered drunk?
     
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    That might be one symptom.
     
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    I believe you must be stumbling or have some difficulty walking, then you are drunk. Otherwise, you are buzzed.
     
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    So one has to be passed out AND sexually molested by their offspring? I mean, we're looking at Noah and Lot, right?
     
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    See this is why people shouldn't drink at all
     
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    I gave you one example...not every example throughout history, but I'm sure you already knew that. Intoxication is a loss of control of physical and mental capacities. Make of that what you wish.
     
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    Why...because Aaron cannot discern what drunkeness is?
     
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    What if you get talkative?
    What if you're starting to get irritable?

    Are you drunk?
     
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    No because said Noah was molested by Lot, I never knew this.

    The alcohol made him molest his father (if that is true) right? So....see what happens when people drink too much?
     
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    Noah was never molested by Lot. You are confusing what I stated. I gave Noah and Lot as two examples in the Bible of drunkeness.
     
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    Are you a glutton at .08% when you eat?
     
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    C'mon, you expect to be taken seriously when you point to men who were passed out to answer a question that wasn't dealing in extremes at all?

    You're saying that intoxication is impairment. How much impairment? When you can't drive? When you can't walk? When you're buzzed?
     
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    Do you have that much difficulty reading? Did I not say drunkeness is a loss of control of physical and mental capacities? Passing out can be one such example...but not the only one.
     
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    I probably have very limited experience regarding drinking. Never liked it, and don't like the feeling of being out of it.
    If you ask me about Pot, then I could tell you a little.

    But I'll take a stab at it. Becoming talkative probably doesn't make you drunk, neither does getting irritated. But if you become dizzy, you are probably drunk or on your way.
     
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    .08% of what? Be specific.
     
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    You didn't say that, Aaron said it. Thanks for clarifying
     
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    You can be a glutton off chicken, so my question is, is .08% of of chicken, gluttony?
     
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