A Question of Sots

We are not talking about over eating making one drunk or having the same syptoms as being drunk (your right you were getting silly ), but what or better when it (drunk/intoxicated and over eating) constitutes as being a sin.

Thus drunk/intoxicated and gluttony CAN both compared in this question.

 

Drinking too much alcohol affects your judgement. That is a sin. Gluttony, however, is a sin of greed.

love,

Sopranette

 

Is that not why a person drinks to much alcohol?

To much is to much regardless.
But where is the line for to much?

 

AAAaaarrrrrrgh! (Runs screaming from the room)

love,

Sopranette

 

:laugh: :wavey: :laugh:

Sorry Sopranette, though I see no difference between the two, I did not intend to make you scream.

If you read my post futher down regarding common sense you might better understand my position.

 

Not many people agree with me, but that's all right.

.08% can be reached by drinking just one drink, whether it be a beer, a shot, or a mixed drink.

If it takes 10 drinks to make one drunk, then IMHO, if one drinks one drink, they are 1/10 drunk and that is a sin...

It's sad when we consider the law's definitions of 'drunk' stricter than what most of us consider God's definition of 'drunk'.

Don't take that first drink and you won't have to worry about it.

Bring on the :tonofbricks:

 

I agree with you, Blessed. I think Allan is trying to figure out what is God's definition of "drunk". That's hard to do without giving a personal experience or going by the legal definition. Those of us who have been drunk ever in our lives knew we were "drunk", but, for someone who has never had a drink, it's sort of like descibing the color yellow to a blind man.

love,

Sopranette

 

Sopranette, if you would have read my posts (more specifically the one I asked you to go back and read) you would see that you are incorrect about what I was doing.

Here is a small portion of it:

(emphasis mine)

I was not trying to 'define' it at all, but I was showing that your disinction between it and gluttony was inaccurate.

Of course you knew when you were 'drunk' so it affected you physically. But did you know the point at which you judgment became impaired? or was about to be impared?

BTW - Yellow to a blind man is in form of something Warm. Just as Red is in the form of something Hot, and Blue is in the form of something cold.

 

Okay, sorry. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I tried to find the post you were talking about, but didn't know which one you meant.

love,

Sopranette

 

That would be my fault because I did not state the Post #.

It is Post #37

 

This fails compared to gluttony. If 5 hamburgers is gluttonous...then 1 makes you 1/5 glutton. I don't buy that.

 

IMO, I don't believe it is when you lose control, but rather I believe once you feel any affect from the drink you are going to far. Once we start relying, or enjoying the feeling we are getting from the alcohol, we are relying less on God. Let me be clear I am not at all insinuating we are turning from God, or anything like that, but we are relying on self and artificial means for those feeling instead of relying 100% on God. That is a form of rebelion.I have been there many times myself. I could easily drink more than some, and still not lose control of anything, my tongue, my actions. But If I am being honest, I also knew at what point I could feel the affects. Whether it is for some more cheerful, or others more relaxation, or others more confidence, or others yet, just a general happy feeling. Regardless of whatever it is you feel, once you feel any affects you are relying less on God and more on self for nothing more than pleasure. I am not talking about pain pills for someone sick, there are verses that address this.
For one example, say you get a little more cheerful. Well in Proverbs God tells us how to rely on Him for more cheer, with a joyful heart

Pro 15:13 A joyful heart makes a cheerful face, But when the heart is sad, the spirit is broken.



This is just one verse, and this post will go to long if I start posting verse after verse, but I hope I made my point clear enough. Whatever feeling we are getting, we should rely on God for those. Unless of course drinking makes you angry and mean, then you shouldn't drink period.

I don't think if someone has a glass of wine with dinner, or a cold beer at a ball game, they are doing anything wrong. But to answer the question of the OP, IMHO I think that the line is a lot easier to cross than many realize.

 

This thread is about alcohol...not food.

You will never get arrested for eating 5 hamburgers and that certainly would not make you lose control of yourself or lower your inhibitions.

 

Best post, so far.

 

Yes, but a lot of other factors go into whether or not you are impaired. For example, eating carbohydrates along with your wine will make it much less likely that you'll be impaired by the alcohol even if you have the same percent as the next person, who ate proteins or nothing at all. As another example, apparently the French drink so much wine so often that many of them are used to the alcohol and don't get impaired by it easily. And so on.

 

It doesn't matter what we say "Drunk" is, what are the characteristics of Drunkenness in the Bible.

Let's look at a few passages to see how God describes a drunk...