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Just a few notes re/eternal security

I ran across an interesting booklet a few years ago, entitled: "So you want to lose your salvation! How to lose it in 14 easy steps." David F. Reagan etc. David Reagan tells us, in the introduction to his booklet: "Well, if you are going to lose your salvation (just bear with me if you want to keep yours), then you must lost it according to the rules. The rule book is, of course, the Word of God." The author does a great job with simplicity showing how bazaar it is, or would be, to lose one’s salvation. The table of contents of his book reads as follows:

1. Declare God's Grace as insufficient
2. Find the faith of Christ to be faulty
3. Get Christ to take back His righteousness
4. Have the pardon removed from your sin
5. Convince the Father to fail in His commitment
6. Break the Father’s seal of the Spirit
7. Change the meaning of "everlasting"
8. Unbirth yourself from the family of God
9. Nullify your adoption by the Father
10. Separate yourself from the love of Christ
11. remove yourself from the premises of heaven
12. Commit sins worse than incest and blasphemy
13. Take the Spirit with you to hell
14. Take the Son with you to hell

 

Or one simplier way might be to not forgive your brother.

Jesus' parable of the unforgiving servant sure seems to imply that God's forgiveness of our sins may be removed if we fail to forgive others. That scares me enough not to test Him.

 

Just do a Google Search for 'Total Depravity' and 'Christian Reconstruction.'

 

Skandelon posted January 09, 2004 02:36 a.m.
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Or one simplier way might be to not forgive your brother.

Jesus' parable of the unforgiving servant sure seems to imply that God's forgiveness of our sins may be removed if we fail to forgive others. That scares
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Yes, Jesus teaches us that having our sins forgiven are predicated upon our forgiveness of others. Now.... what is the context? Salvation or our Christian walk or relationship to Christ after we are saved?

Jesus is talking to Peter ... a saved disciple ... not an unsaved person.
The context is not salvation.

This is where many get confused re/eternal security ... they may equate faith with salvation or the forgiveness of our sins after we are saved with salvation etc. etc.

Take... for example ... I John 1:8-10. John was written to the saved ... not the unsaved. In vs 8 - "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

The word "IF" is a supposition in the Greek. The fact of haveing our sins forgiven is predicated upon our confessing those sins.

"IF" we don't confess ...He won't forgive.
The sin of "not confessing sin" is a sin in itself. If we have unconfessed sin, that hinders our prayers etc. and being forgiven.

What does this do for the saved? Send us to hell??? No way ... but the Christians failure to "get right" with God will hinder that Christians walk with Christ ...

The fact is ... a Christian cannot so sin as to lose their salvation. The Christian needs to confess sins after they are saved ... not to stay saved ... not to keep saved ... not to get saved again ... (all impossibilities) but to stay in a right relationship with Christ.