Featured A six part discussion of sanctification

http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/s...-carnal-christian-heresy-by-brian-schwertley/

http://www.apuritansmind.com/the-christian-walk/carnal-christian-by-albert-n-martin/

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=11110485122

 

From the first link;

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This error is found here on Bb and in many fundy churches. This is why the lordship teaching is mostly questioned

In such a scheme, professing Christians who refuse to submit to Christ as Lord and who refuse to lead lives characterized by obedience and holiness are called ‘carnal Christians.’

This heretical teaching has been called ‘easy believism’ and ‘the carnal Christian heresy.’

Sadly, such teaching has led countless thousands of poor souls down the broad path that leads to destruction. Many churches are filled with antinomian, unregenerate professors of Christianity who merely think of Christ as a fire escape from hell–who want the blessings of heaven but who are unwilling to depart from the sinful pleasures of this world.

With the current popularity of such teaching a consideration of the necessity of sanctification is in order. First, however, it should be noted that although the Bible teaches the necessity of personal holiness or sanctification in a believer’s life, it never gives personal holiness a meritorious role in salvation.

Christ saves His people from the guilt of sin and from its power.

 

From the first link pt2

This seems to be lost in the modern day entertainment and man made rules replacing God's word in many locations. We have had threads on Bb where people suggest that more than 10-15 minutes of God's word preached or taught is too much to endure.

This is the root evil that the carnal Christian heresy produces....

Some post as if this question should be in the debate section.

The Kingdom has already started....

 

pt3;

As horrible as this sounds...it is a main teaching today. We have seen this here.

This happens in many ways so as not to offend the goats. So now...instead of just walking the aisle for "salvation"???? people now are asked to walk the aisle....for....re-dedication.....that is , the first dedication did not quite take, so they try again to do something in the flesh...hoping somehow it might work this time....

would anyone want to.....make Jesus Lord today...as 20 choruses of I surrender all are playing to manipulate people emotionally to feel as if they are doing something...then claim...the Spirit was really moving today.

Yes....




Thus Paul wrote: ‘For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living’ (Rom 14:7-9)

 

pt4;

This is beyond question...no doubt!

very clear

no....no other way....



God-centered evangelism proclaims the biblical message of the lordship of Christ at the outset, not as a second work of grace, or an act of optional consecration later.’ (2)



Real Christians receive Christ as prophet, priest and king; and, as king, Jesus rules over us and subdues sin in our lives.

 

k y r e d

the command in Leviticus to be holy for I am holy you're correct Israel failed to do it the church the true Israel is not going to fail the church the true Israel is going to be holy.

earlier you quoted Romans 13:8 10 for that to be fulfilled church members have to be holy persons they have to be holy they have to diligently seek after holiness in the life the fact that their elected and call on the holiness shouldn't need an explanation


I am using voice to text I'd like to expand on this and deal more with that later

fact that the command from the Leviticus to be holy is repeated in 1st Peter 1 and the church's told that there are holy nation and 1st Peter to solidify this fact

 

Read the texts that were bold in different colors one page earlier....listen to the sermons and read the link offered.....then ask your question


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