A strange Idea....

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  1. Iconoclast

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    In a recent thread a poster suggested this;

    This idea that a godly teacher once he departs from this physical body has nothing to say by what he taught while in the body I believe to be completely unscriptural and destructive to the learning process.

    Offer your view on this...and support it scripturally.

    Hebrews 11:4
    By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh

    Proverbs 13:20
    He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.

    If a godly teacher puts his teaching in print, then departs his body...do the verses he offered change?
    Is God the Holy Spirit not able to use them when written down?
    Should we not enjoy a Spurgeon sermon because he has left His body???

    What do you say on this?
     
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    If you take this too far, then we would have the really bad example of those who were taight by Apostle John or peter as not holding to their views after they died!

    Or we would have NO theology/commentary books still existing after the person died, as the church would gather them all up to burn them!
    ore!
    Now, shpuld the assembly heed the teaching of a godly man, after another one passed away? Yes, but not to forget all that went bef
     
  3. Zaac

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    Scripture tells us:

    What has been will be again,
    what has been done will be done again;
    there is nothing new under the sun.
    Ecc. 1:9

    The word of God with which we have been entrusted is finite in length. The truths and priniciples will be taught again and again hopefully just as the Saints of the past taught them.

    Absolute Truth is repetitious. It's supposed to be as it never changes. I believe God allows things to be recorded so that we can see how others dealt with the same things with which we currently deal.

    Why would a person not allow himself to be taught by the teachings of those who are dead in body only? It doesn't make any sense.
     
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    The above is an excellent example of putting words in someone's mouth. Icon never said or would endorse the silly notion that we should be taught exclusively from those who have have gone on to glory.
     
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    The wording was a little weird, but I read that as Zaac agreeing with Icon.
     
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    I think so, too. This is one of the great Zaac posts.
     
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    After reading and re-reading his line with the aid of your post --I think you are right.

    Sorry Zaac. Your wording threw me.
     
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    Nothing to disagree with in the O/P. Guess I'll have to wait for it to go Cal/Non-Cal.
     
  9. Iconoclast

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    seems so clear:love2::thumbsup:finally a thread with everyone is in agreement nothing could possibly disrupt this thread
     
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    While were at it, lets just chuck those old hymns as well, you know, those written by those Wesley cats, ol Fannie J., Isaac Watts, Newton, Toplady, etc.

    We can only sing Gaither songs at the present time since he's still kickin :tongue3:
     
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    Actually, the scriptures warn about persons who will "heap to themselves teachers"

    2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    This verse says the time will come when folks will not endure sound doctrine, but will heap to themselves teachers that will tell them what they want to hear and obviously lead them astray.

    Hmmm... I wonder who this verse is talking about? What group or denomination has many teachers? Hmmm...
     
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    Wow, making quite a claim here aren't you. Let me guess you're insinuating that the Presby's, Reformed Baptist, Puritans, etc. are false teachers, just because these cats spent hours and hours in study of the scripture and the writings of others?

    http://www.spurgeon.org/fsl/library.htm

    I'll take the old dead guys over the shallowness of the modern church any day.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ivH1nsNU8
     
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    :wavey::thumbsup::thumbs:
     
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    Hey, what do they say? If the shoe fits...
     
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    Oh no, brother Icon, there you go again with that wavey, Winman knows what that means now, you'll get roasted for that for sure. :laugh:
     
  16. Iconoclast

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    I forgot...:laugh: when I use it then it means I am sending someone to perdition:laugh: I should have saved that post as a reminder...
     
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    http://www.christianpost.com/news/j...ions-at-americas-night-of-hope-in-nyc-121134/


    Philippians 3:18-20

    18 For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
     
  18. Thousand Hills

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    The good folks here in BB land, whatever their persuasion, are generally well studied, and have a desire for seeking out truth, as evidenced by this recent thread.

    "How Many Books Do You Have?" http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=93730

    However, the BB population is only a small percentage of the modern church. Let's consider another recent thread.

    "Church Library"
    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=93745

    I would venture that any of us could walk into the local church library and have an easier time finding a copy of "Chicken Soup For The Horse Jockey's Soul" than we would a book by A.W. Pink. Sad, isn't it. :tear:
     
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    You are ripping "many teachers" out of its context. It is in error to just separate it by itself without a description of the "many teachers".
     
  20. Iconoclast

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    can you remember a post when he used something in context?
     
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