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Featured A.W. Pink - The Sovereignty of God, updated version!

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by markwaltermd, Aug 9, 2012.

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  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Mexdeaf, your denial is pointless. :)
     
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    The difference is you rewrite scripture that says we are saved by grace through faith as we are saved by grace and given faith.
    Your view has no basis in scripture. So you constantly seek to change the subject while making false assertions.

    You deny Jesus died for all. However scripture says Jesus laid down His life for all. You deny Jesus provided justification of life to all men, yet that is what scripture says.
    Jesus died and became the propitiation (or means of salvation) for the whole world, yet you rewrite this one too.

    You deny God's word yet claim scripture alone is you doctrine. You seem to just make up stuff rather than rely on what scripture teaches.

    God causes or allows whatsoever comes to pass, He did not predestine each and every autonomous sinful choice we make.
    That is Pink's claim and it is mistaken.
     
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    you mistake the effects of the fall!

    Sinners CANNOT freely chose to come to christ, as our very natures are at emnity with God, we are at war with him...

    God is the One that has to reconcile us back to him thru the Cross, and he does, in the fact of the death of jesus paid in full the sin debt owed to God, and those elected by the Father will be saved by it!

    jesus death has the means to save ALl who would come to him, but only those granted to him by Father will come to him!
     
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    I see you got it. :)
     
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    This is all Calvinism has folks, people who simply post falsehoods and never acknowledge truth. How many times do they ignore Matthew 13:1-26 that says natural men received the gospel with joy, so at least at that moment their minds were not set on fleshly desires.

    Scripture says God is reconciling the world to Himself, an on going process where God spiritually puts individuals in Christ where they undergo the circumcision of Christ.

    We agree Christ's sacrifice has the means to save anyone God puts in Christ, He is after all the propitiation for the whole world. Too bad Calvinists do not really believe it. And yes only when the Father gives us to Christ by spiritually placing us in Christ, the sanctifying work of the Spirit, do we arrive in Christ.

    Calvinism rewrites the entire Bible, turning it on its head to impose a tyranny over man invented by men from the dark ages who believed God was a God of compulsion rather than love.
     
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