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A Wasted Vote

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Reformer, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. Reformer

    Reformer New Member

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    Would you care to tell me the difference.

    Remember I have NO reason to believe ANYTHING McCain has said, he has voided that trust with his flip-flopping lies. When someone says "Obama says____ and McCain says______ I have to assume he is lying AGAIN.
     
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    About what? I see you loosely throwing the "liar" mantra around quite loosely...yet don't state to what. I believe you have bought into the liberal media's character assasination of the republican party.
     
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    I'm not blindly following anything, Roger. There are more important issues than "party punishment".

    Like I told Bro. Curtis yesterday, debate what I actually say, not what you want me to say. I clearly stated in your quest for GOP hand slapping, you are inevitably going to have to embrace the socialist baby killer as a result...not that YOU are the socialist baby killer. There are consequences to our actions, and that will be one of the consequences of voting for someong with no chance to win.
     
  4. Bro. Curtis

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    And I feel there will be consequences if McCain is elected. Bad ones. You say they will be only slightly less bad than Obama.

    No thanx. Despite your assertion that it shouldn't be, my conscience is clear.

    And your assertion that my vote will put Obama in the White House is absurd. If that's supposed to scare me, I'd just say your vote could put McCain in the white house. That scares me as much as Obama, maybe even more, because of the blindness of the GOP voters.

    And McCain won't end abortion, he will surrender to the U.N. in worldly matters, he is no conservative, and he is no friend to conservatives.

    I'm not voting for him. Tantrum all you want.
     
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    And a vote for the Republicrat party line will make it better how? It is going to stop the socialisation of America and save the unborn?
     
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    Who is the "you" that you are speaking to?
     
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    It will make it better if it keeps Obama out.

    The socialization of America is not going to be stopped by Baldwin or any third party candidate. As long as the house and senate are democratically controlled, that is a given. The appointment of supreme court justices could save the unborn. That is not going to happen with Obama as president.
     
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    Whoever throws around how a Christian should vote.
     
  9. Bro. Curtis

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    So you admit we will be a socialist country no matter who we vote for ?

    Why vote at all ?
     
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    Then include yourself, Roger and everyone else on here.
     
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    To protect our unborn (and soon to be born).
     
  12. Bro. Curtis

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    Roger never told anyone how to vote. He's never told me how to vote. The only people who've told me how to vote are putative conservatives who think I should just forget my convictions, for the common good, and vote for someone I don't want in the White House.
     
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    I've been used enough by the GOP around abortion. If I was convinced he would end it, he may have a chance at my vote. But he's so willing to maverick all over the place, I don't trust him.
     
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    On this very thread he has told me how to vote. Read.
     
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    OK, I've read it. Where does he tell you how to vote ?
     
  16. Reformer

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    A flip flop is inpossible to do without a lie (unless you admit you have changed....which he has not),

    For instance John McCain made BOTH of these statements........."As a leader of a pro-life party with a pro-life position, I will persuade young Americans [to] understand the importance of the preservation of the rights of the unborn".......&........ "in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade, which would then force women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.” He is (as we all are to some degree) a liar. He just calls it politics.

    Your assumption that I have bought into the medias bias is interesting to me, did you know I only listen to Christian radio and I have no TV so I guess I have been biased by Christian Conservative radio. And I supposed you might be right, I do remember when James Dobson said "I will never vote for John McCain" he has since recanted the comment. Maybe he saw where he had bought into liberal media bias?
     
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    It is not the ones who DON'T vote for Obama that gets him elected. It is the vote of those who DO.


    I would wish that some of our leaders, so favored by fame and ministry, would also have the courage of a Daniel or a Gideon or a Nehemiah, or an Elijah to stand in the gap, rally the forces against evil, uncover the foundation and sound the trumpet to the rebuilding of the walls, both within the church and of a Nation, once favored by God, but precariously close if not already falling over the brink of judgenment and destruction.

    We who know the goodness of God's love, mercy, and grace, have strayed: We neither weep for ourselves or our nation in repentance: Now is this the best encouragement we can give each other is to vote for the lessor of two evils......? Have we truely lost our faith and conviction? If we stumble over such light choices now, what shall we do when our afflictions increase against the sorrows of this world?



    I believe the Bible when it says:
    The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD. Proverbs 16:33 What better defense have we than trust in God's Holy Word?

    We should already know that we cannot be a friend to the world's belief system without being an enemy to God.
     
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