Featured Abbreviated Word Study G2749, “keimai”

Here we have a word (G2749, keimai) that literally means to lie down, or to lay something down, to set down something or to put something somewhere. However, metaphorically, it refers to God placing someone or something somewhere for His purpose, and so can be properly translated as something being destined or put there to be the cause of something according to God’s purpose.

Lets look at a few of its usages in scripture, ones that seem to use the word metaphorically.

Luke 2:34, And Simeon blessed them and said to Mary His mother, “Behold, this Child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and for a sign to be opposed—

Here the literal meaning “put here” to be the cause of many… captures what is literally and metaphorically being said.

Philippians 1:16, the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel;

Other versions say “put here” and that more literal rendering best captures the idea.

1 Thessalonians 3:3, so that no one would be disturbed by these afflictions; for you yourselves know that we have been destined for this.

Again, the rendering “put here” seems spot on.

1 Timothy 1:9, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the )ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and )profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers

Here, I see no need to pull off the literal meaning, i.e. law is not “put here” for a ….

Revelation 4:2, Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne was standing in heaven, and One sitting on the throne.

The word does not mean “standing” but does include being set somewhere, so a throne put there in heaven seems to hit the mark. For example a throne laid down in heaven might suggest erroneously it was tipped over.

Bottom line, of the 5 metaphorical usages, “put here” or “put there” better presents the literal and metaphoric meaning of the word.

 

Rather than repeat fallacious arguments, folks should consider improving translations by honoring the goals of fidelity, accuracy, and transparency to the original text. See post #61 for details.

 

If anyone pays any attention to how Mr. Rippon portrays others, they are naive.

 

"Fidelity refers to the limits to which a given human translation work precisely depicts the underlying message or meaning of the source text without distorting it, without intensifying or weakening any part of its context, and otherwise without subtracting or adding to it at all."

"The fidelity of something such as a report or translation is the degree to which it is accurate."

"The basic idea of transparency is that one should be able to "peer through” the English translation, and, to whatever extent
possible, see, hear, and even feel, the dynamics of the original text. This includes alliteration, puns and word plays, idioms, rhythms, redundancies, and even obscurities — allowing the English reader an entrance into to the complex world of the host languages, that all too often is the privileged domain of the specialist."

 

The internet.

You might try Googling them, if that is not beyond your grasp.

 

Note the self appointed moderator cannot search the internet, yet wants sources cited. Go figure.

Did Mr. Rippon provide source links for his quotes of Dr. Ryken? Nope

 

Here we have a word (G2749, keimai) that literally means to lie down, or to lay something down, to set down something or to put something somewhere. However, metaphorically, it refers to God placing someone or something somewhere for His purpose, and so can be properly translated as something being destined or put there to be the cause of something according to God’s purpose.

Lets look at a few of its usages in scripture, ones that seem to use the word metaphorically.

Luke 2:34, And Simeon blessed them and said to Mary His mother, “Behold, this Child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and for a sign to be opposed—

Here the literal meaning “put here” to be the cause of many… captures what is literally and metaphorically being said.

Philippians 1:16, the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel;

Other versions say “put here” and that more literal rendering best captures the idea.

1 Thessalonians 3:3, so that no one would be disturbed by these afflictions; for you yourselves know that we have been destined for this.

Again, the rendering “put here” seems spot on.

1 Timothy 1:9, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the )ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and )profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers

Here, I see no need to pull off the literal meaning, i.e. law is not “put here” for a ….

Revelation 4:2, Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne was standing in heaven, and One sitting on the throne.

The word does not mean “standing” but does include being set somewhere, so a throne put there in heaven seems to hit the mark. For example a throne laid down in heaven might suggest erroneously it was tipped over.

Bottom line, of the 5 metaphorical usages, “put here” or “put there” better presents the literal and metaphoric meaning of the word.

 

Put here and put there translates keimai transparently and with fidelity.