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Abortion Is Wrong

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by PrivateWoman, Sep 17, 2010.

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  3. Yes, abortion is murder, but it is an acceptable choice

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  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    It is not about a special person. It is about a special God. God does the calling and God does the shaping of those who He calls.
     
  2. RalphIII

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    Exactly my point! It is the false prophets people need to learn to recognize and be carefull of as the Bible states.

    God Bless
     
  3. RalphIII

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    Wow! First, the Bible says God created all things and it is stunning a professing Christian/Pastor would question that or give rise in doubt of that!




    That may explain some things however as many modern Churches/Pastors are really out there and in conflict with God. Do you think the devil possibly created your soul or that you are equal to God in having existed from the beginning as He or your soul exists in spite of Him?

    Secondly, I posted much Scripture which should have completely put to rest your continued questioning of when God has reverence for us. I went ahead and re-posted some of those at the end. Quite honestly, anyone who truly knows God doesn’t really need Scripture for such as you should ere on the side of the sanctity of life! In addition, where in the Bible does it say your soul is not you, or that you are not your soul? Otherwise, why would you not revere life from conception and even before as God clearly does?
    Some attempt to argue Scripture leans toward actual birth or some questionable point after conception; only, you have to throw out the rest of Scripture in making that red herring argument. It is akin to arguing the letter “A” doesn’t exist in our language because of the existence of the letter “D”.


    It really goes back to my original point that some people are either ignorant of God’s Word or they choose to ignore God’s Word so they can continue in their un-Godly ways. It is clear many people argue and deny the sanctity of life within the womb simply in order to justify their support for abortions.


    1) When do you as an educated man and Christian believe life deserves reverence and thus should be protected?

    2) In what instances do you believe abortions are acceptable?







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  4. Jim1999

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    So, what do you do with original sin? Did God create that to as He created your infividual soul. So, God is the Author of sin, is He?

    Try reading the historic theologians such as Hodge, Berkower, Strong and other fundamental theologs.....These are not new thoughts, Even current theologians will wrestle with the origin of the soul. It just isn't that simple. It must correlate with other doctrines.

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    Quote::: Wow! First, the Bible says God created all things
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    So, all things is it? When did God create sin, and please don't hedge about. Maybe you should learn how to understand the whole of scripture and not wrangle a meaning out of one word.

    You just pointed a sick finger at every theologian and preacher down through history. Have you actually studied all the Bible?

    Sorry, I don't like pointing fingers, but I am growing beyond ignorance when accusations are made such as yours.

    Cheers,

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  6. RalphIII

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    Jim stop throwing out non sensical and continued questions/herrings by refusing to answer those which have been put forth to you! In addition, the Bible is the only thing which needs to be referenced and is clear in this topics regards!

    The Bible clearly states God created all things does it not? Does it specifically say sin however? I will answer your question as another prominent pastor and theologin did.

    Sin is the absence of God and therefore He did not create sin as you and I understand. Sin is devoid of God. It is the void created when God is absent.
    Isn't that indeed how hell is described and wasn't it man who sinned first and thus brought sin into the world?

    God Bless and try accepting the Bible as the premier author!
     
  7. Dragoon68

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    Ask God to forgive you for it.
     
  8. Dragoon68

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    God created all things but God did not create evil. Both concepts are defined in the Bible.

    See Genisis 1, Isaiah 42:5, Isaiah 44:24, Nehemiah 9:6, Acts 17:24-25, 1 John 3:8, Revelation 12:7-9, 1 John 1:5, James 1:13, Romans 1:18, Romans 8:7, and many more.

    Evil was born in Satan's pride and subsequent rebellion against God. Evil in man was born by man's willful acceptance of Satan's deception. Evil exists in all men because we all are made from the seed of Adam. God did not create Satan or Adam to be evil. Each chose to be evil by the free will He had given them. Why did God permit this? We don't know except that it is for purposes that suit Him and that should be enough if we accept His superior attributes of being all powerful and all knowing.

    Questioning the validity of God's decisions and directions is exactly the tactic that Satan used on Eve.
     
  9. I Am Blessed 24

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    We are not a body, with a soul. We are souls who live in a body. That's why our soul will live for eternity...it's who we are. Therefore, our soul must be present at conception and abortion is murder...God said it. That settles it.

    Having said that, It is the official position of The Baptist Board that life begins at conception. Opinions, stated as fact, that would contradict the board's position on this issue will be edited or deleted entirely.
     
  10. crazycat

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    I think Ronald Reagan put it best
    I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born. ~Ronald Reagan, quoted in New York Times, 22 September 1980
     
  11. PrivateWoman

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    I am very shocked that you as a retired Baptist pastor don't think that abortion is wrong. Aren't you happy that your mom didn't decide to abort you? You became a human the second that your mom's egg and your dad's sperm fertilized.

    I encourage you to really look closely at this verse:

    Life begins at conception. Look at the first part of Jeremiah 1:5 (Before I (A)formed you in the womb I knew you). This shows that you were a human before you were born. God loves unborn babies very much and they are human beings like other humans who have been born already.

    Why did God say before He formed you in the womb that He knew you? As soon you were formed in the womb, you were a human.


    I encourage you to read a former abortionist, Dr. Beverly McMillian's testimony at http://www.prolifeaction.org/providers/mcmillan.php. She did abortions for years and then she became a Christian and quit doing abortions because she realized that they were wrong. She owns a big all female ob/gyn practice in Jackson, MS today. What do you think about her testimony? She was convicted that abortion was killing babies after she became a Christian.

    You also should consider ordering "ProLife Answers to ProChoice Arguments" by Randy Alcorn and read it. It is an excellent book and I think it will help you to understand why abortion is wrong.
     
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    I was out all day yesterday and did not have a chance to bring thread to a close at Page 10 limit

    This thread is now closed
     
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