ACA 'success' falls flat for White House, so ... class warfare?

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  1. thisnumbersdisconnected

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    I've got not so much a problem with an increased minimum wage -- it's been behind the inflation curve for 14 years now -- as I do with the way the effort is being framed. It could be couched in reasonable language, cognitive arguments put forth about the economic realities, etc. Instead, the Ignoble Traitor in the White House has determined to use a big axe to cut the populace right down the middle, pitting "haves" against "have-nots." He is essentially saying, "If you don't make a living wage, it's somebody's fault," and he's going to point at the successful wage earner. Unfortunately, the "middle class" he's always been whining about disappearing holds the vast majority of successful wage earners in the country, so he is making us the enemy.

    Does this have any ring of history for anyone? Try the Leninist revolution, in which the Marxist philosophy quickly replaced a softer, gentler socialism brought forth by the Bolsheviks in 1917 Russia.
     
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    He's going into campaign mode again and it will work, again. I saw a clip on the news where Obama urged Congress to raise the minimum wage because, "we're a better nation than that" (alluding to not raising the minimum wage.)

    Watch the Republicans pass unemployment benefits and raise the minimum wage, if for no other reason than to get Obama off his soapbox and return the debate to the failure of ObamaCare.
     
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    Anybody seen any economists talking about the impact of this?
     
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    Not during this particular round of debate. I do know from past increases of the minimum wage that the doom and gloom predicted by conservatives has not come to pass. Certainly the predictions of economic stimulus resulting from extending unemployment benefits by liberals are a load of hogwash. I think the result of extending unemployment will simply be an increase in the deficit/debt and a reprieve from looking for work for a good portion of recipients.
     
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    Just where does the Federal Government get the authority to dictate wages?
     
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    During the Depression, the state of Washington passed minimum wage legislation, and a chambermaid working for the Cascadian Hotel in Wenatchee sued to be paid the difference between her wages and what was established at the time as the minimum wage in Washington state, $14.50/week for 48 hours. The trial court, citing a previous decision in Adkins v. Children's Hospital, found in favor of the hotel and its ownership group, West Coast Hotels. The state supreme court overturned the decision, and West Coast Hotels appealed in the federal courts.

    An avowed supporter of Britain's "new liberalism" -- essentially, socialism -- Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes wrote the majority opinion reversing decades of SCOTUS precedent disavowing the federal government's authority to regulate labor and wages, ruling that the state had an interest in establishing a minimum wage. Roosevelt jumped on that ruling and unilaterally instituted the concept that the SCOTUS ruling applied to the federal government's interest as well, and had fellow Democrats introduce minimum wage legislation in the Senate, and it passed, never to be successfully challenged.

    The Court had been largely conservative up to that point, dealing blow after blow to FDR's socialist agenda with rulings against his government-grown efforts at legislating the country out of the Great Depression with the same kind of federal spending programs that we call "stimulus packages" today. Roosevelt had threatened to "pack the Court," appointing justices to the SCOTUS bench, expanding it to as many as 15 justices. He argued the Constitution put no number on how many justices should be on the Court, and he wanted a majority. Ultimately his efforts failed, but not before he managed to intimidate the Court into more favorable rulings -- like the Washington minimum wage decision -- with his "packing" tactic in play as a threat to the Court's authority.

    That is how FDR overcame founders' principles and over 100 years of precedent before the Court, to usurp the privileges of free enterprise and force companies to pay what the government wants them to pay.
     
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    You should stop watching Fox News. That destroys cognitive ability.
     

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