Adam's Telescope

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  1. Aaron

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    Why didn't he have one?
     
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    Why should he have one?
     
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    He didn't need one. He had walked with the Creator of the world, and could have just asked Him what was out there.
     
  4. Aaron

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    To look closely at the heavens.



    If asked, "Why the stars," what do you think God's answer would be?
     
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    Odd question.
     
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    Brother, I don't mean to be negative here, but I think that all of us have wondered at some time why Adam did not have a telescope. It is not wrong to wonder (I've also wondered why he did not have a blender as he could have made a mean strawberry smoothie). But don't demean the rest of us for such bafflement.

    While Scripture tells us all that we need to know about Adam, there are simply some questions left unanswered. If, however, you have seriously never wrestled over the question of Adam's astrological studies and the methods he used, then you are more than welcome to point the rest of us to the passage that put your mind at ease. Just please don't sit aloof in your allegorical observatory making fun of our ignorance.
     
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    Certainly no personal insult intended.
     
  8. Aaron

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    Adam didn't have clothing either. It wasn't necessary. When it became necessary, God made him some.

    Could it be that the heavens were intended to be viewed from Earth with the unaided eye? That their message is best discernible from this observatory with natural human vision? I'm not trying to say there's anything wrong with looking closer, or from a different vantage point. I think we're invited to do so. To identify a genuine Da Vinci, one looks at the 'canvas' the brushstrokes and the pigments used, but the message of the artist can only be read when viewed holistically.

    Could the same be said of the Heavens?
     
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    The looking isn't a problem, it is the listening that is a problem.

    "The heavens proclaim the glory of God.

    The skies display his craftsmanship.

    Day after day they continue to speak;

    night after night they make him known.

    They speak without a sound or word;

    their voice is never heard.

    Yet their message has gone throughout the earth,

    and their words to all the world." (psalm 19 - NIV)​

    Far too often the ears of this world are stuffed so full of this world that hearing the message that is "without a sound or word" and the "voice that is never heard" is impossible.
     
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    To divide the day from the night; and for signs to mark seasons, days, and years; and to give light on the earth.
     
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    The universe may not exist but in the time we perceive.

    In reality, we all may be living in darkness and just don't know it. It takes time for the star light to arrive and the source of light long ago gone out.

    By the time we realize it, it will be too late, and judgment will have come (Luke 21:33).
     
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    Because, at any time he could have been raised up unto God's shoulder for a closer look.
     
  13. Aaron

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    Agreed. Don't forget, to give light upon the earth. So the sun, moon and stars exist for man's work on Earth. They exist mainly for him to view from Earth.

    Is is safe to say that the Earth is central to God's purposes for the sun, moon and stars?
     
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    If that were an option to man, why God's objection to the Tower of Babel?
     
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    So there is meaning in the stars?
     
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    The Stars Speak: Astronomy in the Bible by Stewart Custer.

     
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    I was thinking in the garden before the fall Adam would've had that opportunity. Once he was down to tilling the soil he was left to his own devices. Therefore and thereafter he could have the second rate telescope when he was able to build it himself.
     
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    Man's Pride. Genesis 11:4.
     
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    Because the purpose of the Tower of Babel was to be a symbol of the unity of the people in contradiction to God's command to "scatter and multiply."
     
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    Exactly. Man wanted to be as God, he gained knowledge of his own free will and as designed from the beginning to have human volition he now would learn that his pride and desire to be as God was sinful. He would have to obey his Lord and King, God or face the consequences but for God's loving offer of Grace to His creatures whom He knew would take this fall in their pride.
     

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