Adios folks

thessalonian....
God Bless you on your Journey!
Sherrie

[ June 22, 2003, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Sherrie ]

 

A bientot, mon frere. Pray much, especially for me, brother. God bless you.

 

You wont be the first one who tried to kick this habit. You'll be back. I dont know when or under what name, but you'll be back.

 

thessalonian! I hope you'll be back, but if not, know that I've enjoyed your posts and will miss your input here.

God bless,
Brian

 

I read BB.com for a year before I began to post and I noticed so many people leave and come back, leave and come back, leave and come back.... Some do it over and over. But I think it must be hard to be a Catholic on a Baptist Board. I could never post on a Catholic Board and endure the questioning of my every word so I understand to some degree why you feel the need to step away.

God Bless you in your search for His will in your life,
Diane

 

I would encourage anyone who is interested to go visit a Catholic board and experience what it is like to post there.

The problem is not "majority" or "numbers" the problem is in trying to have a discussion based on the Bible. It can sometimes start off on the Bible - but that is for a post or two, then it quickly turns to "What does tradition say" and "what do Catholic sources say we are supposed to think".

For that reason - the opportunity to dialogue with Catholics (where there are a number of Catholics posting) on a board like this is truly "exceptional".

The catholic posts here are amazingly more tolerant to a Bible based discussion. It is like night and day. And the fact that you have more than one or two people representing the Catholic view gives variety.

I applaud those Catholics who have posted here.

In Christ,

Bob

 

We will miss you and keep you in our prayers.


God Bless you

 

Thess,

Are there no divisions in the CC?

I always thought there were different rites.

Oh well.

That surely would be nice if all the Christians did believe the same.

God bless your time away.

In Spirit and in Truth,
Kelly

 

We all believe the same truths. Just different styles and customs....all under the same Pope. Brother Ed here is from the eastern rite and is just as Catholic as us in the western rite. We are one. I could go to his parish and he could go to mine.

God Bless

 

Thess,

I am going to sorely miss you too!

You have done a wonderful job of defending the Faith!

God keep you safe, and if you can, partake of that most beautiful of the Sacraments

THE HOLY EUCHARIST!

God's infinite blessings to you and yours, Thess!

PAX

Bill+†+


- Anima Christi -

Soul of Christ, sanctify me.
Body of Christ, save me.
Blood of Christ, inebriate me.
Water from the side of Christ, wash me.
Passion of Christ, strengthen me.
O good Jesus, hear me;
Within Thy wounds hide me and permit
me not to be separated from Thee.
From the Wicked Foe defend me.
And bid me to come to Thee,
That with Thy Saints I may praise Thee,
For ever and ever. Amen.

 

We all believe the same truths. Just different styles and customs....all under the same Pope. Brother Ed here is from the eastern rite and is just as Catholic as us in the western rite. We are one. I could go to his parish and he could go to mine.

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]Would you be so kind as to elaborate? I asked another Catholic once, but they got offended and refused to explain it.
What would you say would be the major, if any, differences between the different 'rites' within the umbrella of 'Catholic'? I have actually stopped referring to the Catholic Church as the RCC, and just call it the CC due to the fact that there are rites that are NOT Roman. What would be the differences which make them NOT Roman?

Thanks in advance!
God Bless,
Kelly

 

Thessalonian,

God bless you, your input will be missed. We may not agree around here but I think we all respect you for your defence of what you believe in.

I pray that the Lord would remain at the centre of your life.

Enda

 

Brother Thessalonian --

May God go with you on your journey. May He be the Joy of your life and your hope of glory.

Kelly --

Good question. I shall try to answer for you.

Both the Latin West and the Greek East believe that the elements of the Eucharist, upon proper consecration, become the Body and Blood of Christ in reality and substance. It is Jesus.

However....

In the Latin rite, the children must first be "confirmed" before they are allowed to partake of the Eucharist. Not so in the East. As soon as our babies can swallow a few drops of the precious Blood, they are given Jesus. So you see, we believe the same, but we administer differently.

You are probably familiar with the flat paten which is used in the Eucharist in the West. In the East, we use small cubes of bread (called "phosphora") which are immersed in the chalice after the consecration and administered to the faithful by means of a small golden spoon used by the priest.

In the East we use incense at EVERY LITURGY.

In both rites, we believe that baptism is the means God gave for entrance into the kingdom of God. But again, we administer that Sacrament in a different manner. In the West, it is most usually by sprinkling. In the East, we IMMERSE our babies, which can be a bit tricky (they gits slippery because oil is poured on the water as a sign of the Holy Spirit). At the same time that they are baptized, they are also chrismated and confirmed into the Church. As you see, different understanding of how to administer the Sacrament, but not of the Sacrament itself or what it accomplishes.

Again, the basic differences come from the fact that as the Church grew out of the boundaries of Jerusalem and went into all the world, it went to the Greek speaking East, who's capital was Constantinople, and to the Latin speaking West, who's capital is Rome. Two different cultures as well as two different views of God and His salvation. The West tends to focus more on the humanity of Christ and the legal aspects of salvation. The East has always been embroiled in arguments regarding the nature of Christ's divinity (Arian controversy, Monophysite controversy, Monothellite controversy, etc.) and deals more with the mystical nature of salvation and our "theosis" (becoming like God).

So doctrinally, no difference. But in terms of how we apply those doctrines, yes, there are differences.

Hope that is helpful.

Cordially in Christ and the Blessed Virgin,

Brother Ed

 

Brother Ed,
Thank you for taking the time to explain that for me! That makes sense. When it comes to differences in the Protestant arena, there usually are MAJOR doctrinal differences that separate say baptists from Pentecostals. MAJOR.

Thanks Again!
God Bless,
Kelly

 

Thess....

My best wishes to you.

 

Hey, what you see is Christ selecting HIS remnant.
Christ wants those who will trust HIM at HIS
word (the Holy Bible) and has ALWAYS pulled them
from churches that have strayed.

As for the Roman Catholic church-----the news
media, and Catholics I have spoken with have
demonstrated the diversity and confusion that
exists within their own ranks.

Hate to see you go but don't let the screen door
slam as you leave. Don't forget to read the
Bible regularly...

 

Kelly --

I have been corrected in a private message as to the baptism issue. Apparently it is POURING which is the standard for the Latin rite and not sprinkling.

Anyhow, you are right. We have no MAJOR differences in doctrine. Even the Eastern Orthodox are 99% with us in all doctrinal issues, only being split on the issue of the "filioque" clause to the Nicene Creed and the issue of how the Church is led (by a pope as opposed to by a "college of bishops"). Other than that, we are so close that I expect soon that the Orthodox and the Romans will work out these differences (which really amount to semantics) and reunite as they were prior to 1054AD.

Cordially in Christ and the Blessed Virgin,

Brother Ed

 

And that will be the first of the grand reunions of Christianity!

The angels in heaven will sing a song so loud, we will hear it here on earth when these two great churches reunite once more!

Then later maybe the Lutherens, the Anglicans,....who knows, maybe even the Baptists!

God bless,

PAX

Bill+†+


- Anima Christi -

Soul of Christ, sanctify me.
Body of Christ, save me.
Blood of Christ, inebriate me.
Water from the side of Christ, wash me.
Passion of Christ, strengthen me.
O good Jesus, hear me;
Within Thy wounds hide me and permit
me not to be separated from Thee.
From the Wicked Foe defend me.
And bid me to come to Thee,
That with Thy Saints I may praise Thee,
For ever and ever. Amen.