This is not spam. This is necessary to form a just opinion. Therefore please tolerate a few long postings. They will be followed up by my comments. First delivery (five pages printed): Thursday Crucifixion Date? An Admitting Mk15:42 Indicates the Start of Day By Carl Johnson, BA Physics, Pastor, A Christ Walk Church And Comments by C.G. Ebersöhn Plumber called to pour molten lead in the ears of the sleeping watchmen on the walls of God’s Holy City His Church Carl Johnson: Scriptural Support (Scripture is from the King James Version) Mark 15:25 And it was the third hour, and they crucified him. Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Mark 15:37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. Mark 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath, Mark 15:43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. Mark 15:44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. Mark 15:45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. Mark 15:46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. The Crucifixion of Jesus actually took place on Thursday! Hebrew days begin at sunset, and Sabbath Laws were strictly followed, and these facts have a significant effect on any discussion regarding the Crucifixion of Jesus. If Jesus had been crucified on Hebrew Friday, there would have been too many time consuming things for Joseph to do before sunset when the Sabbath would begin. Jewish law was that it was a mortal sin to do ANY work on the Sabbath. Jesus was almost certainly actually Crucified on Hebrew Thursday, and then placed in the tomb after sunset, in other words, on Hebrew Friday. This circumstance does NOT bring into doubt ANY of the Christian beliefs about Our Savior. It does not suggest that we should stop celebrating Good Friday. [Why should we in any case?] This discussion is presented here as merely an effort at establishing accurate and factual information about His Life and Death and Resurrection. [So are my comments.] It is CERTAINLY not meant to shake the Faith of any Christian. In contrast, we have long believed that accurate information about Our Lord can be of great value in STRENGTHENING or Faith! Jesus died late in the afternoon (3 pm). After this occurred, there was necessarily some delay before anyone knew. Then, once Joseph of Arimathaea realized this fact, he had to get official permission to remove the Body from the Cross. After this, he had to buy or otherwise obtain the linens and oils necessary for proper burial. Then, he had to get the Body down and transport it a substantial distance to the Sepulchre. Once there, the Body had to be prepared, wrapped, and placed in the tomb, all with respectful methods. This means definitely not rushing all of these things. This sequence of events certainly took more than the three hours that were available before sunset (6 pm). That means that the procedures would have to have continued until after sunset. Actually, John 19:39 tells us that Nicodemus came to Jesus by night, bringing the spices for the burial preparation. That means that the following day would have officially begun. That confirms that all the burial activity was not completed by sunset. If He actually died on Friday afternoon, these procedures would necessarily have continued on to the following day, the evening of the (beginning) Sabbath. The Sabbath Laws were extremely rigidly adhered to, since even the slightest failure regarding the extremely strict Sabbath Laws was considered a mortal sin (one of the Ten Commandments). That being the case, Joseph would certainly NOT chance defying the Sabbath Laws. This means that it is an almost certainty that He was Crucified and Died on Hebrew Thursday afternoon, and that He was then placed in the Sepulchre on the evening of Hebrew Friday, shortly after it became Hebrew Friday. He arose on Sunday, the Third Day, after nearly all of Friday, all of Saturday, and about half of Sunday. Since He was actually interred at the beginning of Hebrew Friday, it is understandable that Friday became associated with the Crucifixion. Since the development of modern clocks a few hundred years ago, society came to have an accurate way of identifying the moment of Midnight. Most societies chose to change to using Midnight as the moment of the change from one day to the next, mostly out of convenience, because most people were sleeping then and each wakeful period then represented one day for the majority of people. This alteration on the understanding of when each day begins simplified daily life, but it had a consequence. This means that the evening hours (from sunset to midnight) are now considered to be part of a different day than in ancient times. This has caused an element of confusion that affected our understanding of that very important day in history. For the fifteen hundred years prior to that change, it was correct and proper to honor Good Friday since He was interred at the beginning of Hebrew Friday, and the rest of the civilized world understood the same day structure (beginning at sunset), so Good Friday became a firmly established tradition. When this alteration of the clock and calendar was instituted a few hundred years ago, those six hours (from sunset to midnight on the beginning of Hebrew Friday) became the LAST six hours of what we now call Thursday! However, the tradition of Good Friday already had around 1500 years of recognition behind it, and the recognition of it has remained on Friday. There is really no reason to alter our present celebration of Good Friday, because it is as accurate a description as Thursday would have been. This discussion is not meant to be disruptive of our honoring His Gift to us, but rather a technical correction of precise facts. IN SUMMARY: Jesus was crucified at the third hour (mid morning) Mark 15:25 (The twelve ancient Hebrew hours of the day were counted to be equally divided time periods from sunrise to sunset.) (In March, there are actually about 12 modern hours of daylight because it is near the Equinox.) Therefore hours accurately meant hours counted from 6 a.m. Jesus died at or after the ninth hour (mid afternoon-after 3 p.m.) Mark 15:34-37 Evening came (at twelfth hour, about 6 p.m.) Mark 15:42. Hebrew days began at sunset, which is about 6 p.m. at this particular time or year. In other words, the next day began. At that time, the days of the week did not yet have individual names. They were referred to by their day number in the week, beginning with 1 representing what we now call Sunday. If the crucifixion had been on 6-(Friday) (what we would now call Friday, then 7-(Sabbath) would be beginning right at Mark 15:42. No "work" would have been legally (or morally) done and no more than a half-mile of walking (a Sabbath day's Journey) would have even been allowed. Pilate would never have authorized all the activity Joseph was about to accomplish, on the Sabbath. And Joseph would never have dared do any of it on the Sabbath.