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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by DiamondLady, Nov 7, 2011.
Does your church celebrate Advent? If so, what materials do you use? If not, why not?
Yes, I use the Lectionary for some readings, but develop my own sermons more on the topics hope, peace, joy and love then being tied to any one scripture
Isn't Christmas the celebration of the first advent?
Of course, what Baptist doesn't celebrate it? I preach on the four topics.. Hope, Joy, Peach, and Love... (although I never remember which comes after which!...lol).. then Christmas eve.. we light the Christ Candle.. and I preach that sermon...
Also, we have a Chrismon tree, and possibly this year we will be celebrating the hanging of the Greens...
Don't all Baptists do these things?
No thanks. I've no need to make religion out of rites and rituals.
No, all Baptists do not do these things. Most Baptists do not do these things.
Are you breaking out your "Book of Common Prayer" also? :BangHead:
No we don't. We do praise God for sending His Son into the world to save sinners (His first advent/coming), and we look forward to His glorious Second Coming, but we don't restrict such things to the four weeks leading up to Christmas.
And where if we "celebrated" those four weeks, where would we draw the line? if Advent, why not Epiphany, Septuagesima, Sexagesima, Quinquagesima, Ash Wednesday, Maundy Thursday, Palm Sunday, Holy Saturday, Ascension Day, Whitsun, Trinity Sunday, Holy Innocents Day, Ember Days, Lent, Rogation Days?
What a provocative question? What does a tree & candles have to do with Christ & the gift of Life HE gives to us by HIS dieing on the cross? I will tell you that I do enjoy the season & the stuff you've mentioned but we must contemplate the "True Reason for The Season". Not pagan expressions. Being Baptist makes it all the more important that we recognize the differences.
Let me just take out my Catholic calendar! Heaven forbid:laugh:
We celebrate as a look back to the first coming of the Christ child and a celebration of the anticipation of the Second Coming of the Conquering King. I think it's a time not only for celebration, but reflection; of anticipation and preparation. Each year we try to do something different and all of our members participate. We have done vignettes.....one of the most touching was one of our very pregnant ladies portrayed Mary in the first week. By the fourth Sunday her little boy was born and she, her husband, and the new baby, portrayed Mary, Joseph, and the baby Jesus.
Advent is not an "Catholic" only event. Shouldn't ALL Christians celebrate Advent?
1). Every time we meet.
2). The word of God.
Christmas Day in particluar? Well, not unless it comes on the Lord's Day.
Otherwise we celebrate at home.
But why? Such a four week celebration is not even hinted at in Scripture.
Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Good Friday....none of those are hinted at in scripture either. Yet, we commemorate all of those. Advent is NOT a celebration.
Of course, but some are offended by what they perceive as some Advent observances as being too "Catholic".
I don't. Perhaps because I was born into a Catholic family and some of my most cherished family memories are of Christmas time.
That's really said, people shouldn't be offended. I've always been a Baptist and only see this as part of the beautiful remembrances of Christmas. What is Catholic about Hope, Peace, Joy, and Love? Maybe it's because you light candles?
Matt Wade, you don't have a copy of the Book of Common Prayer?
:laugh: (sarcasm noted right?)
Now seriously, I'm going to have to start a thread about this....but not here, cause it's off topic.
Let's see, Advent, Christmas, Epiphany, Palm Sunday, Easter, Maundy Thursday, (Holy week in general), Pentecost and Trinity Sunday are all acknowledged our Baptist church. I for one enjoy the connection with the catholic (intentionally provocative) church associated with remembering these days.
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“When the devil gets influence in a church, up go candles and down goes preaching.” —English Reformer Bishop Hugh Latimer
For many many years John Piper penned these epic Advent poems (titles such as "Paul Malach and Talitha", and "The Cyrenian Cycle: Rufina") for recitation during worship. Several years ago Piper announced that his church would have to be content with just Scripture.
Scripture? In place of "The Cyrenian Cycle: Rufina"???
A Chapter Closes in Advent at Bethlehem
Advent poems? Is that something like Christmas musicals?
Really, all these things can be helpful. We shouldn't refuse them just because they don't suit *us*. We should use our minds, that God gave us, to find a way to worship and remember in ways that do suit us. (normative philosophy )