Age of Accountability

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  1. ShotGunWillie

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    This has probably been discussed over and over again, but I need some help.

    Situation: Non-Christian backs over his five year old son, kills him. His (the boys) parents are not Christians, so the odds of him hearing or knowing anything about Christ are slim. Is he in heaven? Why or why not. Please provide scripture to support your response.

    I am trying to help a friend find words of inspiration during this time, and possibly help him lead those parents to the Lord through this trajedy.
     
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    WOW. I will be praying for you and your friend, as well as this family as they deal with the loss of their child.

    I have no words that will expound on this subject, as it hits a little close to home for me as well. I can't explain the surety I have that my daughter flew directly into the arms of her Creator. Maybe it's dumb hope or desire. But knowing that one day I will meet my daughter who I never knew in this life gives me hope. I can't explain. But I know that I will see her there.
     
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    Although we are all born under the curse of sin, because we all die, I believe that the blood of Christ covers all children. I do not believe that God holds a child accountable for sins of ignorance. A child will sin, but it is not a deliberate rebellion against God. They are acting on their sin nature.

    Only God knows when a person becomes accountable but He is merciful and just. The blood of Christ was shed for the little child just as it was for you and me.
     
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    Well, there's no "age of accountability" in the Bible but I think we can see a few thoughts on the subject.

    David knew that when his little son died, that he would be with the Lord.

    In Exodus, after the Israelites were complaining and whining, God told Moses that no one over the age of 20 would enter the Promised Land, telling me that He did not hold those under 20 accountable for the whining.

    Most of all, we know that God is a good, righteous and just God. He knows the heart of man, woman and child and will do what is right. We can have full trust and faith in Him and His choices. Who are we mere men (and women) to say what God should do?
     
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    Great points annsni.
     
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    When reflecting on the age of accountability, one must also call to mind the words of James, who wrote:

    Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    Sin is defined in the Scripture as 'the transgression of the Law. While we are no longer under the Law, but under Grace, we are told in the New Testament that children are to obey their parents.

    It is a tough call, but if the child was rebellious, knew the difference between right and wrong but did wrong anyway, there is a chance the child did not enter into that rest.

    In this land we live in, it is hard to fathom that that child had not heard at least some of the Gospel from playmates, friends, neighbors... or someone.

    Is he in heaven? Only he and God knows. If he placed his trust in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior, then with assurety I can say He is safely in the arms of Jesus.
     
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    I can only speak from experience. I know that if I had died between the age of 6 to 8 I would have been lost. At 8, after two years of Christ calling me to repentance, I surrendered to Him. For others that age may be different. Like the verse in James suggests knowing to do good and not doing it, it is a sin.
     
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    Depending on the child, some where between eleven and thirteen.
     
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    I have a hard time believing this statement. In this day in age, I think being a true Christian is taboo and not a hot topic for children. And you don't see door knocking as much as you use to either. Witnessing is a lost art with most people. Just my observation.

    Now, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons, they got that covered, they got mad door knocking skills.
     
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    What is this based on?
     
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    James 4:17 (KJV)
    Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    By the age of thirteen, some earlier, children know right and wrong they know they are being disobedient.
     
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    With all the churches in America (practically on every corner, and the inquisitiveness of children, a child surely would ask what a Church was of someone.
     
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    I have a friend in Port Charlotte, Florida who states emphatically that she was saved at 6 years of age. She has been serving the Lord for many years now.
     
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    It's rare that children are saved at that age and continue to go to church. Maybe, her mind developed at a faster rate. I don't know.
     
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    We have met this lady in person...she stayed at our house for 10 days. She lost her husband in September, 2006 and she has quite a testimony. This lady loves her LORD Jesus Christ and it shows. She has been teaching an online ladies Bible study for the last 7 years.
     
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    I know someone who gave her heart to the Lord at age 9 and never turned back. Backsliding wasn't a part of her life, she has always stood firm for the Lord.

    Ages 9-13 were my wildest days, everything I did wrong was done to an "extreme" during these years, though actually it probably began before that. By about 13, I had a good sense of right and wrong and calmed down tremendously. Appeared "wild" due to my outgoing personality though I was pretty straight. Calmed down about the time when my peer group were gearing up for the "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" era.
    It depends how you were raised, your body chemicals, and your maturity level. For some it may be 20 years old, for others it may be 13 years old or even younger.
    I think there is a story in the Bible where someone was called by God at the tender age of 8 years old
     
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    I was 7 when I came to know the Lord - even though I had grown up in the Catholic church. I understood in a simple way about sin and sacrifice. Did I fully understand enough to be "accountable"? I don't know. I know I certainly didn't fully understand salvation at that time beyond the fact that I wanted Jesus in my heart and wanted to go to heaven.

    Of my children, 3 of them did this same thing at 4 years old and one was 5 (my son - they say boys are slower - LOL). Does my little one fully understand salvation? No. But is her heart sure that she wants to be a child of the King? Yes.

    I think children can choose to follow Christ yet not fully understand - and maybe not be fully accountable then.

    As I said, I know that God is just and I don't question how He runs things. :)
     
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    At the age they know enough to follow Christ, they are accountable.
     
  19. ShotGunWillie

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    Do children really notice buildings that aren't bright, bold, and have golden arches? I don't know about that. I am not trying to argue, but I don't think a five year, having never known what church is, would ask what church is. Especially if their parents never discuss it. What would they care?
     
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    I agree that for some this is true....but I cannot see how one could make this a universal statement. Scripture doesn't, and I've known kids to be saved at earlier ages than this.
     

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