Al-Jazeera hires ex-Marine

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  1. LadyEagle

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    This is a more complex story than one would imagine at first glance.

    My first thought was "why?"

    Then I googled and read all about it and watched the trailer from the movie, "Control Room." Has anyone seen the movie?
     
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    Al-Jazeera does quite frequently air pro-American, anti-Al Quaeda, and anti-terrorist clips. One of the reasons we often don't like them is that when they show footage, be it anti-American or not, they typically show it "raw", whereas we like our news footage "cleaned up".
     
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    So, anyway, I went to Blockbuster and bought this previously viewed movie, "Control Room."

    The footage was taken before and post-Iraq and toppling of Saddam. Those people who toppled the statue of Saddam were Kurds, a staged event brought in by the US military. There were no flowers and candy thrown at our troops, either, like we had been told would happen. Iraqi's in Baghdad were asking where the Republican Guard was. They didn't want us there.

    Before I get accused of being a liberal anti-war peacenik, socialist commie and unpatriotic, let me say this movie showed both sides, both the Fox War Channel side and Al-Jazeera. I thought it was pretty evenly balanced. If you ever get a chance to see this flick and view it from events of the war in Iraq as we know it today, you'll see things are a lot different now than what we were initially told before going into the war.

    And, the ex-marine was doing his job as one of our military and very patriotically so, during the filming of this documentary. Now I understand (I think) where he is coming from by hiring on to al-Jazeera and leaving the military.
     
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    I'm glad they did it. The visual was absolutely fantastic. [​IMG]
     
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    The footage was taken before and post-Iraq and toppling of Saddam. Those people who toppled the statue of Saddam were Kurds, a staged event brought in by the US military.

    Your proof of this is a movie ?
     
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    Well, Bro. Curtis, now that I've googled, I found this:

    http://sf.indymedia.org/print.php?id=1598451

    And certainly we all remember the story of Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress who fed us faulty intel while working as a double agent for Iran and bilking the US taxpayers out of 100s of thousands of dollars every month for years while lobbying several administrations and Congresses. [​IMG]
     
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    SAN FRANSISCO INDYMEDIA !!!???!?!?!???

    LE, you CANNOT be serious.
     
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    Hey, Brother Curtis, I was a Kool-Aid drinker back then, too, like a lot of people. (I like Cherry) and was caught up in it, believing the hype.

    Another interesting fact in the movie. I wondered why our military didn't take Iraq TV out and let Baghdad Bob continue with his spin (Remember him, the former Iraqi Information Minister?). The reason is because the al-Jazeera correspondents had given their coordinates to the US military so they wouldn't be hit. I wondered why we hadn't at least jammed the airways and filled Iraqi TV with US propaganda saying we were coming to liberate them so they'd know what was going on when we dropped the bombs. We failed miserably to propagandize the Iraqi people that we were liberating them, but succeeded to propagandize this side of the ocean where the American votes are.
     
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    Well, yeah. The Congress had to vote to give the president the authority to invade Iraq. The Iraqis didn't have a vote in the Congress.
     
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    I've seen several INDYMEDIA sites, and I am appalled that a moderator would lonk to them. But hey, since you did it, let's look at some of the items they think newsworthy, but I WON'T link to them...

    Israeli policies trashed at SF antiwar march

    Pics from Marriage Equality Rally

    Richmond High School students organize Press Conference to fight statewide exit exam.

    The rise of the American Taliban suffers defeat as pro-choice women successfully defend Roe v. Wade at an Oxford style debate in Fresno.
     
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    Tee hee....I mean link. I can't remember anyone lonking.
     
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    A documentary film....it won the "Truer Than Fiction" award as well as several "Best Documentary" awards of 2004.

    From the film - Rumsfeld: Truth ultimately finds its way to people's eyes and ears and hearts.

    Bro. Curtis, do you believe that the "great visual", the toppling of the statue was not staged for propaganda? Do you believe that it was a spontaneous action by Iraqis that just happened to be captured on film by the American news media?
     
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    So what? So did Michael Moore's travesty. Not a measure of truth at all.
     
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    Just what IS the truth?

    Have any of you seen this film?

    Are ANY conservatives (other than me) willing to seek the truth? Do conservative ideals make us so blind that we are willing to be sheep and blindly accept whatever our government feeds/tells us, just as long as those in charge are perceived to be "our guys?"

    Does it not bother anyone here IF the Saddam statue being pulled down was a staged event by our government as a media event designed to rally the American war effort?

    I saw the long shot footage. The crowds were not there in the square, like we all believed they were on the big day.
     
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    Should conservatives rely on INDYMEDIA for news ?
     
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    Are you kidding me! Our government would actually try and use propaganda on us? Who'd a thunk it. ;)
     
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    "Bowling for Columbine"? That was a pretty good film, thoughtful for the most part. The only part I objected to was his badgering Charlton Heston - that was bad.

    I think it's wonderful the way you don't let not having seen a film keep you from having a strong opinion about it. That's the very definition of prejudice, isn't it? Prejudice has really gotten a bad rap from those evil pinko do-gooders... ;) You just stick to your guns there. Guilt by association is still guilt!
     
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    Do you consider Micheal Moore an honst man ?
     
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    I believe every man is a liar.
     
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