Al Mohler's response to SBC Statement

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  1. 12strings

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    I can't be objective when it comes to Mohler because of my dislike of him and strong disagreement with him. I think he is barely Baptist. Statements like the following affirm it; he says of the BF&M: "Every Southern Baptist is free to believe more than the confession affirms, but never less." That denies Bible freedom, soul freedom, and priesthood of the believer.He also says of it: "Where it speaks, it speaks for us all." This also denies what the first statement does. The BF&M does not speak for me, nor does any other confession.
     
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    I agree with you. I thought it was a measured, gracious response that attempts to pull the conversation toward a civil direction without ignoring that there are significant and important differences.
     
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    In my opinion Mohler is the most able person among Southern Baptists.

    I first saw and heard of Mohler some years ago when he appeared on TV with several other religious men. I believe there was a Jew, a Roman Catholic, and some Protestant. Dr Mohler was the only one among the "Christians" who took a strong position on the Bible and the Christian Faith.
     
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    Best thing written on this subject!

    Mohler is barely Baptist? That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen. Mohler is a shining light for the SBC
     
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    I think it's instructive to our own discussions to note that while Dr. Mohler identifies himself as a Calvinist, and says he could not sign the declaration, he did, in fairness, point out some statements with which he agrees.

    And he went out of his way to call many of the signers friends of his who have contributed much to Baptist life.

    I've been waiting for his take on all this and he didn't disappoint.
     
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    Do you know Mohler personally. If not how can you say you dislike him?

    You make a very pejorative statement when you say:
    If you are going to defame Dr. Mohler you should at least present some evidence.


    I don't know Mohler but would like to know him. I am thankful he is president at Southern. He has restored some integrity in the faculty. I have a copy of his discussion on the Doctrine of Grace with Paige Patterson, have read many of his articles and his excellent book He is Not Silent.

    Frankly I wish more Baptists were like Dr. Mohler! I certainly agree with his characterization of the Baptist Faith and Message. One of the weaknesses of Southern Baptists is that they do not have a strong Confession. I would recommend something like the 1646 London Confession, the 1689 London Confession, or the Philadelphia Confession. Furthermore a Confession does not deny Bible freedom, soul freedom is meaningless, and no confession can affect the priesthood of the believer!
     
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    How is it gracious to say that those who signed it [poor uneducated brothers] didn't really know that what they were signing was "semi-Pelagian" and even worse than Arminian [HERETICAL!]?
     
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    Exactly.


    In typical Calvinist’ rhetorical fashion Albert Mohler states the “Ole Peligian” strawman and goes forward on that premise.
     
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    Mohler sure seemed to help put out the fire that has been generated by this document, unlike Michel Wrenn, who seems to be trying to throw gas on the fire. God Bless Dr. Mohler.
     
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    Poor little Calvinists. :tear:
     
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    Well said!:godisgood:
     
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    If the shoe fits wear it! If it pinches pull it off!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    Or he understands what is contained in this false statement,Pelagian and semi pelagian ideas, that were deemed wrong in times past and are wrong still, despite your protesting.:thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    Calvinists are just fine and seeing the weakness of this statement, they are more confident of the historic faith.:thumbs:
     
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    Well said!:godisgood:
     
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    He is every bit Baptist as anyone else. But the attitude that comes to this kind of conclusion is not.
     
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    Oh no they cannot be just fine. They are crying foul, acting as if they have not participated in what lead up to this and just overall being a victim. That is not fine.
     
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    The attitude of Mohlers comments is way better than the attitude of the bogus unneeded statement of beliefs that started this deal.
     
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