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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Baptist4life, Sep 20, 2009.
Drinking alcohol OK with you?
Here we go again
We have not had one of these discussion in a long time.
Just my 2¢ worth but yes, it is ok to drink so long as it is not straight alcohol.
It tastes a lot better in a good wine or beer etc
Just kidding, gotta get some humor in this before the fight begins.
Yes, the consumption of alcoholic beverages is permissible in moderation.
It is certainly not a requirement that one drinks and one may feel it best for personal reasons to abstain.
It is not a sin to drink though.
We do not drink due to having been working with the college ministry and now that we're no longer doing so, we continue to abstain for the sake of my daughter's boyfriend. He had, in a stupid period in his very young life (he's just 17), he had gotten drunk a few times and after getting caught by his father and being severely punished (he cannot get his learners permit until he's 18 - way to go dad!!), he realized how stupid it was. He met with DH and I to tell us about that part of his past and his promise to our daughter and to us that he will not drink again any time soon. What a good young man. But for his sake, I will not drink even though we have the liberty to do so. I WILL continue to cook with alcohol, however. I find there's nothing like the flavor to make certain dishes.
I don't feel I can answer the poll properly so will address the choices here:
1. I see no problem with alcohol
I do see a problem with alcohol in some people's lives and in regards to causing a brother/sister to stumble.
2. Alcohol is OK, just know your limit
It's not just about our limit but the limit of those around us as well and it's not just the limit of the quantity of consumption but of the consumption itself.
3. I like a drink now and then
I really do, but have chosen to not drink at this point in time.
4. I don't think a Christian should drink outside their home
This could be one choice to decrease the chance of causing someone to stumble.
5. I don't believe a Christian should drink alcohol
I don't believe SOME Christians should drink alcohol - those with drunkeness issues, those who would cause a brother to stumble and those who would stumble themselves if allowed to drink.
6. Drinking alcohol is a sin
Absolutely not. Drunkeness is a sin.
Having been raised in, and currently attending a very conservative Baptist church, I believe it's wrong for a Christian to drink.
I also had an alcoholic dad, and I've seen what alcohol can do to a person, and family, which may skew my opinion some, but I truly see absolutely no good coming from the use of alcohol, and I wonder why a Christian would even consider "flirting" with it in any way.
I don't care for the taste of most beverages anyway so I rarely drink. My wife does like to cook with beer from time to time.
We do need to be careful that we do not use our liberty to make others stumble.
One thing I am not sure of though is how you go about teaching new Christians that it is not a sin to drink?
We need to make sure that we still convey the serious responsibility of it.
If you choose to drink, listen to the end of the beer commercial (not the rest of it, lol) and drink responsibly.
I certainly believe you have not seen any good come from the use of alcohol.
There is plenty of evil that can come from it's abuse and the scriptures give us ample warnings against this abuse.
However it is very important to distinguish abuse from the substance itself.
There is nothing good or bad with the liquid but the way in which the liguid is used can either cheer the heart of God and man or it can destroy lives.
By the way, if you grew up around people who did not take marital relations responsibly but lived recklessly, you might at first feel the same way about that.
Alcohol is ok, just know your limit. :thumbs:
yep, that is where I am.
But here we go: "Look kids! Big Ben, Parliament!"
I like a drink occasionally. I was not raised with it, so it has never been a priority with me. I just don't think about it very much. As others have said, I don't think alcohol itself is wrong, but the abuse of it is wrong just as the abuse of many things is wrong (e. g., food, tobacco, gambling, drugs).
How is one to know their limit without first partaking? What if you have an addictive personality just waiting to show itself? Should we tell christians that it is OK to drink, as long as you can handle it, and then let them figure out if they can handle it?
I've never heard of someone becoming an alcoholic from not drinking. It's better to err on the side of caution.
(yes, this is coming from an (ex)alcoholic)
It doesn't make sense to me to blame someone's addiction on the thing that the person was addicted to. If someone is addicted to overeating, would we recommend they stay away from food? Alcoholism, along with other addictions is a result of idolatry. The alcohol wasn't the problem. The problem is in the person's belief that alcohol is more valuable than Christ. Same thing for other addictions.
So according to some, Paul was encouraging Timothy to sin when he told him to take wine and Jesus was complicit with the sin of those at the wedding when he turned water into wine.
I don't think so, that's ridiculous. By the way, the words BEER, ALE, and LAGER are never mentioned in the Bible, although there are about 5 other designations for types of alcoholic beverages. The Bible teaches moderation when it comes to alcohol. I always find it humorous when FAT preachers rant against alcohol but will never preach the first sermon against gluttony or encourage their people to eat in moderation.
I have never seen a woman beat because of obesity. Drunkenness, on the other hand..................
We can make every excuse in and not in the book, but frankly, there is no excuse for alcohol as a beverage, in my opinion. I have never been charged with drink driving after a cup of tea!
I've seen a woman beat without alcohol. It's not the alcohol. It's the pig behind it.
I know people who do not have internet access to avoid dirty websites.
While that may not be a problem for one person, it may for another.
In the same way some may not have a problem with drinking and others may.
Regardless of the topic, we can't make a law based on what is practical.
We base our own decisions on practical wisdom but what is wise for one man may not be for another.
God's law is the same for all.
Alcohol is not a sin. If a Christian wants to drink, though, he should do it in the privacy of his home, make sure he is not going to get into contact with other Christians who might be offended by his liberty, and he should be ruled by moderation.
Personally, though, I don't think a Christian should consume alcohol, for the same reason that I don't think he should use tobacco, they both smell awful on the breath.
I think all of the answers given can be true.
I wonder if those that think drinking alcohol is ok, as long as you know your limit and do so in moderation, believe the same about other drugs? Is some pot ok as long as you know your limit? How about cocaine? If you think alcohol is ok in moderation, but these other drugs are not ok in moderation, then in my opinion you are not shooting straight on the subject.