Alcoholic beverages in Heaven

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  1. blackbird

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    For all the boys and girls who have just recieved a trip to the moon--via Blackbird's homemade rockets--get your Bible's out and show me and answer another elementary question--will there be alcoholic beverages(of any form, including the sissy stuff you drink with dinner!) in Heaven??

    You will have to agree with my following statement--every soul in heaven, whether they drank on earth or not is now a Tee-toter in Heaven!

    I'll always be your friend, whether you drink or not here on Earth!
    Blackbird
     
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    Matthew 26:27-28: "Then He took the cup gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, 'Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in My Father's kingdom .'"

    You won't be a teetotaler in heaven. :D
     
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    Thanks Rev you saved me some typing on that one. sorry Blackbird you missed this one.
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    Matthew 22:
    30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

    Hmm, should I divorce my wife since their is no marriage in heaven?

    HankD

    [ September 26, 2002, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: HankD ]
     
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    Other possibilities, depending on your eschatology:

    Jer 31:12, Joel 2:19, Zech 9:17

    Wow blackbird, this issue really has you going, doesn't it. ;) Is your argument that if something isn't in heaven later, it must be a sin now?

    [ September 26, 2002, 10:16 AM: Message edited by: BrianT ]
     
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    Are there urinals in heaven? Someone tell me quick, because I really have to go. [​IMG]
     
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    What I REALLY want to know is whether or not there are pink and white Circus Animal Crackers in Heaven.

    It would also help me to understand if I knew whether or not hot chocolate in heaven has those mini-marshmallows or not...
     
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    Is there coffee in heaven... I'll take the gourmet blend... cream and sugar... And lets not have to many angels and saints hanging around the celestial water cooler!... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
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    Regardless of the menu, I will be glad to be in heaven! ;)

    Sometimes the way things go here on earth, the sooner the better (just not right now). [​IMG]
     
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    Bro blackbird,

    It's a good thing you are a good sport.

    You are aren't you [​IMG]

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    I have made it clear that I am against the use of alcoholic beverages, and stated my reasons. Now I want to tell you a story which happened in 1959, my first pastoral ministry in Canada.
    It was at a summer resort area, and many cottagers. During my visitation, I always whistled or called out before entering someone's private area,,their back garden.
    As I shouted out, I could hear the tinkling of glass in a hurried fashion. When I heard the "come on in, pastor", I entered, but there wasn't a glass or bottle in sight. I sat down and reached under the table,,,felt a bottle and lifted it up, put it to my mouth and remarked,,,"This is going to get like British beer under the table." To make a long story shorter, they brought their bottles out and relaxed and joked with me. A few of them showed up at Sunday service. I am sure that had I cursed their brew and told them off about drinking, I wonder how many would have come to church then?
    I am still opposed to drinking alcohol for the same reasons I gave on another thread, but we must be careful how we deal with people who do drink.
    I am not so bombastic about my non-use of alcohol, and I didn't mean to leave that impression.

    Cheers in the Lord (hey, this is no time to clink those glasses!)

    Jim
     
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    I joined the local Southern Baptist church here several years ago. They neglected to give me the statement that I had to agree to to become a member. I only read it last winter.

    It seems that Jesus Himself could not be accepted for membership in my church.

    I don't recall the exact wording, but it concerned the abstention from alcohol and the active discouragement of it's use.

    Jesus failed on both counts, having drank wine and provided it for a wedding feast.

    I don't drink myself, but I could not have honestly agreed to abide by a standard that would exclude the Lord and that I myself do not agree with.

    Yes, there will be wine in the Father's Kingdom, and yes, Jesus will drink of it.
    I suppose some here will be too righteous to lift a cup with the Lord.

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    Hmm, should I divorce my wife since their is no marriage in heaven?

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    Not necessary Hank.

    Romans 7:2. For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage.

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    ReV. G. ,
    Who says this is acoholic wine? All I read is fruit of the vine. That could mean grapejuice. Please don't add to scripture. Thanks. [​IMG]
     
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    ReV. G. ,
    Who says this is acoholic wine? All I read is fruit of the vine. That could mean grapejuice. Please don't add to scripture. Thanks. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]Hi Mrs KJV. You are correct. The word "wine" (greek "oinos") is an entirely different word than the Greek word used in "fruit of the vine" (gennema) "fruit." The LORD did NOT drink wine. Thank you Mrs. KJV. [​IMG]

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    Why would anyone need to get high in Heaven?
     
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    I don't for one minute think that the Lord Jesus Christ drank alcoholic wine! He was "holy, harmless, & undefiled".

    From what I've seen of intoxicating beverages, He would not have partook of that nor will He serve that(a mocker-deceiver of man; something that causes untold misery) in Heaven.

    The only difference I see between someone who claims to be a Christian & drinks & the lost man up the road who drinks...is that the lost man causes no one to stumble.
     
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    Hello! This is Blackbird speaking! I've been with my wife over in Birmingham this week for a Beth Moore Bible Conference so I hadn't had time to respond to my own question.

    Almost half of you misunderstood the question--which was--will there be ALCOHOLIC beverages in Heaven?? As "Foghorn Leghorn" would say, "You ain't 'a listening to me, Boy!! Now, I say, boy! Look at me when I'm talking, boy!"

    Alcohol--as in intoxicating beverages like you can buy at Winn-Dixie, Jitney-Jungle, and for you deacons and pastors who can't afford to let your church members see you buy it--over at the next city's "Fine Wines and Cigarettes"(probably the one that Spurgeon shopped at!!) shop!! You know, Third Street down in Baton Rouge!! Every city's got um!

    Now, I'm gonna go into my "Wind Up" again! I might throw you a slider, sinker, curve ball, change-up, or I might just "Fan" you with a super-duper "Randy Johnson" fast ball! This time, don't close your eyes when you swing at the ball coming at you!

    In other words, today is Sunday--5pm--and I have just 40 minutes to get to Sunday Night church! I'm coming at you later with a "Blackbird" answer to the question--! And I am mighty afraid the Umpire will call most of you out on strikes! He's gonna say, "Strike Three, the Batter's out!" and you'll look at him with those big wide eyes and say,"But, but, but, I just got up to bat against ole Blackbird!!"

    I'll be a good sport--but I will "fan" one past you, for sure! The big question is--will you be a good sport on your way back to the dug out?!!

    Your forever friend,
    Blackbird

    PS--if ole 'Cynic is back from an obvious extended vacation--the rules say he must bat against ole Blackbird with a patch over his dominate eye and left handed if he is dominate right, visa versa if he ain't!
     
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    Mrs. KJV: I'm not adding to Scripture. I merely quoted it.

    Latterrain77: Check your context.

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    Jesus would not have been sinning if he drank alcohol, anyway. Only drunkeness is a sin.
    God specifically allowed people to drink wine.
    It was even commanded as a drink offering to the Lord.
    Wine in Jesus' day was most definitely alcoholic.

    The Corinthians abused the Lord's supper by becoming drunk on it.

    MacArthur, in his commentaries on Matthew, says that "fruit of the vine" was a common colloquialism for wine.
    He also says that the passover wine was diluted for the occasion.
    It was, nonetheless, wine.

    Fruit of the vine is to wine what infant is to baby. Same thing.

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    Luke 7:33. For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, `He has a demon.'
    34. The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, `Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." '
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    Jesus drank and was falsely accused of being a drunk. On grape juice???

    The believers speaking in tongues on Pentecost were thought to have drunk too much.
    This should put to rest any notion that there was no alcohol in the wine in Jesus' day.
    Here we have two instances of people being accused of drunkeness. One of them Jesus.

    Paul told Timothy that deacons were not to indulge in "much" wine. Grape juice???

    Today we say no wine.

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    Collosians 2:16. Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
    17. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
    18. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions.
    19. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.
    20. Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules:
    21. "Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"?
    22. These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.
    23. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.
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    MR
     

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