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  1. Thinkingstuff

    Thinkingstuff Active Member

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    What would you say Dog if he just said: "yes"?
     
    #101 Thinkingstuff, Dec 13, 2010
  2. jaigner

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    Actually, that was a different song. "My Kind of Town" was from the movie, Robin and the Seven Hoods. "Chicago" was an earlier song ("Chicago, Chicago, that toddlin' town..."). This has absolutely nothing to do with the subject, but I'm a big Sinatra fan.

    There are many things that are fine in moderation, but deadly and destructive when abused. We use and consume many of them without a thought. Alcohol is just one that we choose to be upset about.

    Like I said, Christians have been drinking for centuries. The reformers drank. It is common practice for Christians in almost every place in the world to drink.

    I respect your decision to abstain. That is the persuasion of your conscience, but when you speak ill of those who do, telling them essentially that they are "wanna-be" Baptists or unwise or something, that is a different thing entirely.
     
    #102 jaigner, Dec 13, 2010
  3. HAMel

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    Here are the lyrics...

    Chicago, Chicago that toddling town
    Chicago, Chicago I will show you around - I love it
    Bet your bottom dollar you lose the blues in Chicago, Chicago
    The town that Billy Sunday couldn't shut down

    On State Street, that great street, I just want to say
    They do things they don't do on Broadway
    They have the time, the time of their life
    I saw a man, he danced with his wife
    In Chicago, Chicago my home town

    Chicago, Chicago that toddlin' town
    Chicago, Chicago I'll show you around - I love it
    Bet your bottom dollar you lose the blues in Chicago, Chicago
    The town that Billy Sunday could not shut down

    On State Street, that great street, I just want to say
    They do things that they never do on Broadway -- say
    They have the time, the time of their life
    I saw a man and he danced with his wife
    In Chicago, Chicago, Chicago -- that's my home town
     
    #103 HAMel, Dec 13, 2010
  4. HAMel

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    "...but when you speak ill of those who do, telling them essentially that they are "wanna-be" Baptists or unwise or something, that is a different thing entirely."

    How right you are.

    If Christians have been jumping off of high cliffs to their deaths, in almost every place in the world, would you?
     
    #104 HAMel, Dec 13, 2010
  5. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Folks in NJ & Pa aren't like that but they dont have anything against drinking in moderation either. If you were to go to the inner cities then alcoholism really isn't the main problem.....Heroin & Crack Cocaine are.
     
    #105 Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 13, 2010
  6. Thinkingstuff

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    I've both cliff jumped or dived and I've bungee jumped. Yet I'm not dead. Interestingly enough.
     
    #106 Thinkingstuff, Dec 13, 2010
  7. Earth Wind and Fire

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    HAMel....your correct. Drinking is a choice. If its your choice not to drink then so be it. But you dont have the right to vilify me if I drink a beer now and again. Im willing to respect your rights.
     
    #107 Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 13, 2010
  8. annsni

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    I'd seriously not go to the Methodist Church for direction in godly living. At least not the Methodist Church I know here in NY.
     
    #108 annsni, Dec 13, 2010
  9. Scarlett O.

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    Brother, I'm sorry, but I just got the giggles at this.:flower:

    All I could think was was saying, "Trying walking into church in your underwear and see what happens. If you can lay on the couch and watch TV in your shorts, you should be able to sprawl out on the pew that way, right?"

    There are LOTS of things that we do at home that we don't do in a worship service - eat pizza, put on make-up, fold clothes, take a shower, and play Nintendo. :laugh:

    I agree with you - drinking can definitely cause a brother to stumble - one must be very careful and not flaunt his or her liberty.

    I'm a teetotaler, myself. No self-control in that area. Abstainence works for me.

    I didn't mean to pick on you, but you I just got tickled when I read your serious post.
     
    #109 Scarlett O., Dec 13, 2010
  10. annsni

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    Can I ask - If I chose to have a glass of wine one night at dinner with my husband in my own home, how would that cause someone to stumble?
     
    #110 annsni, Dec 13, 2010
  11. kyredneck

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    I love these drinking threads; I get to find out who all the drunks are.... :)
     
    #111 kyredneck, Dec 13, 2010
  12. evangelist6589

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    Stay away from me please.
     
    #112 evangelist6589, Dec 13, 2010
  13. preacher4truth

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    I concur.

    You don't HAVE to have a drink to witness.

    That's an excuse, not a rule.
     
    #113 preacher4truth, Dec 13, 2010
  14. evangelist6589

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    Specifics? What you state is false. I am a paying member of a science based weight loss and nutrition program and even the top scientists dont agree with such an absurd sentiment.
     
    #114 evangelist6589, Dec 13, 2010
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    And now I know where all the white lightning comes from. :love2:
     
    #115 Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 13, 2010
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    ...heheh, if you only knew my heritage.. :)
     
    #116 kyredneck, Dec 13, 2010
  17. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Mine are coal miners & ministers....sometimes both at once....no wooden legs here but do respect the recipe.
     
    #117 Earth Wind and Fire, Dec 13, 2010
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    That's wonderful that you are a member of a "science based" program but the studies fully agree with Thinkingstuff. I've been told by my doctors at times to have a particular alcoholic drink. Science proves it out.
     
    #118 annsni, Dec 13, 2010
  19. Zenas

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    Source: Mayo Clinic. You can read the full article here. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/red-wine/HB00089
     
    #119 Zenas, Dec 13, 2010
  20. preacher4truth

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    #120 preacher4truth, Dec 13, 2010
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