ALERT: EPA TO ALLOW PESTICIDE TESTING ON ORPHANS & MENTALLY HANDICAPPED CHILDREN

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  1. poncho

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    Public comments are now being accepted by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on its newly proposed federal regulation regarding the testing of chemicals and pesticides on human subjects. On August 2, 2005, Congress had mandated the EPA create a rule that permanently bans chemical testing on pregnant women and children. But the EPA's newly proposed rule, misleadingly titled "Protections for Subjects in Human Research," puts industry profits ahead of children's welfare. The rule allows for government and industry scientists to treat children as human guinea pigs in chemical experiments in the following situations:

    Children who "cannot be reasonably consulted," such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on. With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the individual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.
    Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on children who have been neglected or abused.
    Chemical studies on any children outside of the U.S. are acceptable.

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  2. hillclimber

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    No way this is legit.
     
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    I pray that you are correct.
     
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    I don't know if the source you are citing has any credability or not (I am not familiar with them) so I can't comment on its truthfulness. However this kind of behavior would not surprise me at all. After all we are a culture that kills how many unborn babies each year?

    And for what reasons? If you will examine the reasons below they are all selfish in nature. It represents the self centered nature of our society (see 2Tim 3:1-5).

    Doctors discover the child is handicap so people pretend to be god and decide the child should not live. After all it will be too hard on the parents to raise a handicap child. The mother decides that she has better things to do than have a baby (ie..make more money, go to school, have "a life", etc). The mother decides that having the baby would be "too hard" on her emotionally so the baby should die for her sins or the sins of the baby's father.

    The bottom line here is that we live in a culture that promotes death. Promoting life is seen as being mean or extreme. Think about that for a moment. A person is against killing unborn babies and they are called extremists by our society! Should it not be the other way around? Sure it should. But we live in a society of fallen, sinful, evil people who condemn what is good and approve of what is evil.

    Friend the judgment of God will fall on our society (if it has not already started).

    The Bible is clear. Those who condemn what is good (life) and approve of what is evil (taking innocent life) are heading for eternal death (Rom 1:32) which is the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:14). The Bible is clear that their fate is sure. All pro-abortion people need to repent before it is too late. Before they stand before the Lord of LIFE and give an account for every word, deed, thought, and evil motive of their hearts! REPENT!

    Martin.
     
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    I agree Martin.

    I feel God's judgment started to fall on us awhile back. According to this poll US: Nearly 50% OK with torture, from what I gather from some of the discussions here this is probably true or close to it. I guess if we call it something else or rationalize it long enough it makes it alright.

    Selfishness, yeah I think that might just be the motivation underneath it all. Imho, it's a sorry state of affairs when we put our lifestyle or security ahead of our souls.
     
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    You seem to think the torture issue is a biggy with God. Well how does the torture (which we DO NOT DO) of a few hundred of the earths evilest humans, compare with the ongoing murder of millions of totally innocent children? You are yet again way off target Poncho. How has your "feeling" been as to God's judgement in the years of national sanctioning of abortion?
     
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    You seem to think the torture issue is a biggy with God. Well how does the torture (which we DO NOT DO) of a few hundred of the earths evilest humans, compare with the ongoing murder of millions of totally innocent children? You are yet again way off target Poncho. How has your "feeling" been as to God's judgement in the years of national sanctioning of abortion? </font>[/QUOTE]I have always spoken out against and even voted against abortion, but you can see just how much good that does don't ya? Try to get Christians to protest abortions enmass as we all should be doing and see what excuses you get told. Let me guess Romans 13 forbids it or our church will lose it's tax exemption if we're 'political'.

    We Do Not Torture huh?

    Then how come we got hundreds of pictures to prove that we do torture and plenty of mainstream articles that say we even airlift 'detainees' to other countries to do it?

    Those in Washington are more worried about who leaked the information than why we are flying people to places like Romania and Jordan to 'interrorgate' them.

    Just curious Hillclimber, how many of these hundreds or thousands of detainess have actually been proven guilty of being terrorists 2- 3%? Not even! How many have even had a trial in court rather than in your head? Just because George Bush, Dick Cheney you and the 'liberal' media say they are all terrorists doesn't make it so, and while I'm still curious what do think about the possiblity of the EPA testing chemicals on handicapped and orphaned children?
     
  8. KenH

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    Claim: An EPA study proposed paying families to allow their children to be exposed to toxic pesticides.

    Status: Multiple:
    The EPA planned to deliberately expose youngsters to pesticides in order to study what effects those chemical compounds may have on children: False.

    The EPA planned to study children who live in an area where pesticides are used year-round: True.

    The proposed study was cancelled in April 2005: True.

    - www.snopes.com/toxins/cheers.asp
     
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    Thank you guys for exposing yet
    another conspiracy theory site.
     
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    What the text actually says is a bit different than what this site says it says.
     
  11. hillclimber

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    No Pocho, we do not torture. All the accusations, from the leftists have convinced many of you, of all kinds of misdeeds of this administration, and yet to this point, exactly zero have proven to be true.

    The fact that born again believers can be so deluded as to believe all these evil efforts against the President, does not speak very highly of their walk with Christ.

    To accuse a believer unjustly is a very serious matter.
     
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    Organic consumers Association, excellent site, already had it book marked.

    They give a rebuttal to Snopes, click the link: "Note Concerns about snopes or other questions"

     
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    For Hillclimber
    Sir, you have been duped.

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/nz1086.htm
     
  14. Gina B

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    Poncho, it's been known for a long time that the government allows testing on wards of the state.

    Now, make it common knowledge if it really concerns you. There is information out there from sources that people here will find more reliable than the one you used.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159806,00.html

    Here's an article to start with. Read this, then follow through on the sources they used and you'll find more information. Unfortunately, you may have a hard time convincing people that being a ward of the state and being used as a guinea pig isn't a happy healthy life...but you shouldn't have TOO much trouble with providing documentation that it really happens.
     

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