Alito Opposes Mo. Execution

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  1. JGrubbs

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    New Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito split with the court's conservative Wednesday night, refusing to let Missouri execute a death-row inmate contesting lethal injection.

    Alito, handling his first case, sided with inmate Michael Taylor, who had won a stay from an appeals court earlier in the evening. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas supported lifting the stay, but Alito joined the remaining five members in turning down Missouri's last-minute request to allow a midnight execution.

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    JG,

    I'm still very comfortable with my support for Alito. Although my federalist (with a small "f") instincts are not comfortable with federal constitutional challenges to (based on my own discomfort with the incorporation doctrine and my belief in the Tenth Amendment), the constitutional climate of the last several decades favors defendants' rights. And, while I have no problem with the death penalty, I also want to make sure that the death penalty is carried out carefully. My boss at a previous employer, who makes me look like George McGovern, is very much against the death penalty philosophically because he understands the irreversible consequences of error if the wrong person is convicted and executed.

    And, though I don't believe Roberts will turn out to be a liberal, I am worried he will instead be a swing vote. I'm far more comfortable with where I believe Alito will shake out.
     
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    I don't know the details on the Michael Taylor case, so I don't know if they should have lifted the stay or not. I support the death penalty, but only when their is absolute proof against the defendent. With all of the technology we have available there is no reason why an innocent person should be executed.

    I would be interested in finding out more about the case and the reasons why Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas supported lifting the stay.
     
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    Why are three death-penalty stays needed to test how last-minute death penalty appeals are handled? Were there not two cases in FL that were stopped for the same reason? Something doesn't smell right.

    I oppose the death penalty, also. If people would stop murdering and raping others, then we could stop executing them.
     
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    The article I read said the case was over one of the elements in the lethal injection cocktail may cause undue suffering. It made it sound as if the case was over "cruel and unusual punishment" and not neccesarily execution.
     
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    It is my understanding that U.S. Supreme Court rarely, if ever, lifts a lower court's stay.
     
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    Maybe he's too much of a pro-lifer for some folks.
     
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    Surprize! Surprize!

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    Judge Alito just sent a strong message he is no
    Scalia or Scalito...is he off the reservation ..time will tell.

    Perhaps he is his own man now, since he has a life time appointment.
     
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    I told you so. Catholics are unreliable allies; the US Catholic Bishops are against the death penalty. Bush doublecrossed us on this appointment.
     
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    Goodness folks, it is the man's first case. You cannot judge him based on one decision.
     
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    Scalia, Roberts, Thomas--All Catholic.

    So why would being Catholic make a difference for Alito?
     
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    Oh, yes you can

    He sent a very strong first impression kind of vote..if a lot of people on this board knew he would vote this way ..he would be sunk before confirmation.

    Just read the case against the man who murdered and raped a 15 year old girl...basically Alito just gave him more time to kick back and relax with jail time.

    What about this 15 year old and her pain and suffering put it on the scales his pain and suffering if any...would not even come close to hers!...THE VICTIM TRUMPS ALL!
     
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    Goodness folks, it is the man's first case. You cannot judge him based on one decision.

    Agreed. Let's wait and see. Perhaps this will end up curtailing endless appeals in the future.
     
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    He is off to a very bad start. It is a mistake to have a court with a Catholic majority. If we wanted to live in Italy, we could move to Italy. Our freedoms are based upon Protestant theology.

    Everyone knows that Bush has not been a true conservative. Let's stop defending Bush. He is not going to stand for election again and let's help him be finished politically.
     
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    Wow! Even a staunch Republican like cmg has turned against President Bush.
     
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    1) All Justice Alito did was vote to give the legal process more time. He didn't rule against the death penalty.

    2) Why? Are you consistent enough to say that it would be a mistake to have a court with a Baptist majority, cmg? Why or why not? Religious affiliation should be irrelevant.
     
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    So has Mike Pence, Congressman from Indiana. Bush is a moderate--I have always said that. Pence said over the weekend that he did not think that Bush is a true conservative. If we have a Catholic who is against the death penalty on the court, we have a Catholic who has followed the teachings of the Bishops, whose teachings are not based upon Scripture but upon the ongoing Catholic concern for "social justice", meaning only that Catholics think that they are underpaid and oppressed.

    I said on this board that Catholics in the majority on the court might stick us with Catholic issues such as no death penalty.

    Chuck Colson did Evangelicals a great disservice by saying that Catholics and Evangelicals could agree together. We cannot because Catholic theology on the issue of justification is essentially anti-Christ, and that lies at the heart of the Protestant Reformation, the major event of the last 1000 years.

    [ February 03, 2006, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: church mouse guy ]
     
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    The problem with the death penalty now is that delays can take 20 years and then the Governors are giving pardons because the victims have been forgotten. It is a mockery of justice. Also the number of people executed is so low that that also is a mockery of justice. Alito has just joined in the mockery.
     
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    Well, I figure if we ever find out that Justice Alito is against the death penalty that you will let us know, cmg.

    The vote that is the issue of the thread was not a vote for or against the death penalty, regardless of how some of the media trys to spin it.
     
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    Justice Alito did not vote against the death penalty. Perhaps you need to actually read what the vote was about before posting on this thread, cmg.
     

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