All about Mohammed

I will put my command of the English language up against yours any day, sir. How many articles have you had published in reputable journals and magazines in the English language? My writing has appeared in national magazines, local publications and on national television and radio. How about you?

And again, you are making it obvious you have no idea what a troll is.

 

"My dad can beat up your dad!"
"Nu-uh!"
"Uh-huh!"

"I speak better than you speak!"
"Nu-uh!"
"Uh-huh!"

How about we all stick to topic and leave the petty bickering for PMs or, even better, for our own unsaid/written thoughts?

btw, muhhamad was not a prophet. I don't care if they call him "their" prophet or not, he was/is not a prophet!

allah is not the moon god. There is no such thing as a moon god, whether anyone says so or not. allah does not exist and neither does any god outside of the True and Living God of the bible, therefore allah is not the moon god.

In any event, would it matter if they did believe that their allah was a moon god? Would that make allah less god than it already is?

Muslims worship a false god, whether you want to call it allah, or uhllah, or ullybully, or whatever. There is but one God and Jesus Christ is His only begotten Son and our Savior! Period...end of story!

:jesus:

 

Wow! wish I kood tork propper like that.

 

I think in reality we, all of us here agree with that. I as a Christian do not believe they worship the same God as we do. And ultimately, yes I suppose you could say that they do not worship the true God. Because they fail to recognise His Son our Lord Jesus Christ. Neither, by the way do they recognise the Holy Spirit as a person, let alone as God.

The name of Allah goes way back in history and in fact is lost in the annals of time. That is why even Islamic scholars are divided about its meaning. It is very easy to dismiss Islam as a moon worshipping religion. But if you read the Quran you certainly do not get this impression.

I am there in their forum because originally I wanted to find out about them as people, rather than just take on trust what I read at websites like "Answering Islam". By the way I recommend folk here to read the website "Answering Christianity". It might give you another slant on what you currently understand about Islam.

Anyway, that was my first reason for joining their forum. Another reason and indeed this was my first question to them, was to ask why Christians do not enjoy the same freedoms in Islamic countries as Muslims enjoy in so called Christian countries and democratic countries? In fact I bring that up a few times and continue to challenge them with it.

I do get one or two Muslims who oppose me being there and tell me in no uncertain terms to clear off and find a Christian forum instead of bothering them. But the administrators defend me and repremand those who slander me. One member actually called me a lyer. I think I was speaking about the deity of Christ at the time. He said, "The holy Quran tells me that you are a lyer Grahame. Who do you want me to believe, the Quran, or you?" I replied that the Bible tells us "let God be true and every man a lyer", so he best believe God.
I asked the administrators if it offended them that I quote scripture in the forum and they said that it did not offend them and that as a Christian I must indeed do so if I were to prove a point. (I wonder how many Christian forums would allow that of a Muslim?)

Lastly they are aware that I do not believe the same as they do and they are happy to let me stay there. So if they are happy, then so am I. But although I am often challenged by the members there, I have made it clear to them that the scriptures tell me to give an answer to anyone who asks about the hope that is in me. Also I tell them that I have made it a rule not to criticise the prophet Muhammed, neither challenge the Quran. And that I expect them also to respect Christ and the Bible. I can tell you that it is very difficult sometimes when the Quran contradicts the Bible. I do get Muslims challenge me on the truth of the Bible. They say it is full of errors. I challenge them to find me the errors, but as yet none have come up with any.

This can be a lesson to us as well.For it is evident that they too only believe what their Islamic writers have written. So I constantly challenge them, rather than for them to read books about the Bible, that they should read the Bible itself.

There are a couple of atheists there as well and I have a bit of fun with them, telling them that I have heard all their ropy old arguments before and that they come up with something worthy of my attention and challenging to my intellect. I also tell those Muslims who like to bate me that they if they wanted to challenge me on verses in the Bible, that they should study it first and get their facts right. That also can be a lesson for us my dear friends. We may read books about Islam, but how many of us actually read the Quran itself.

If we are to combat Islam and truly give an intelligent answer to these people, then we too should find out what they really believe, rather than digging up someone elses writings who supposedly had left Islam. You know I also tell the people there on that forum rather than readily drink in the writings of others, we should find out more about the writers themselves. You know it is amazing just how much we take on trust without investigating things for ourselves. Also without knowing much about the person who wrote the things.

It is hard also to keep quiet and speak at the right time. To judge when it is right to speak and when it is wrong to speak. Some buildings must be built carefully, or the structure may all come tumbling down. I have built up a relationship with these folk and as I have said before have grown to love them and respect them. I'm not prepared to go trampling all over their faith with great hobnail boots. That will just serve to alienate them. But it is important to be as harmless as doves, but as wise as serpents in these matters.

 

Some of the best advice I have read on the BB in a long time. :thumbs:

 

They're on a lunar calendar.

Islam wasn't around then. It didn't appear until the 7th century AD.

Who/what do you think the ancient Jews worshipped before God appeared to Abraham?

 

You could ask EG. I'm sure he could help you out! Maybe loin ya some espanolie too!

Outside some wacky web sites and fringe publications, there is no evidence of Allah in Islam being a Moon God. People, the crescent of Islam is not because they worship a moon god. Perhaps it represents a trimmed toe nail.

 

There were no ancient Jews before Abraham. They lived in Ur, land of the Chaldeans. They worshipped many gods, one of them being Marduk, the god of war, under King Nimrod, builder of the famous Tower of Babel.

 

Well, it's nice to have friendships. But how does that spread the Gospel?

So you don't challenge the quran, but they challenge the Bible. How effective is that, if you don't challenge the errors in the quran or whether or not mohammed was a true prophet of God? If they are as intelligent and sure of their religion as you say, seems they wouldn't mind a challenge or two. How does not challenging their beliefs help to spread the Gospel, especially since they don't view themselves as sinners?

 

Too late, Daisy. It's already straightened out and you're left here looking... well, uh...

late.:laugh:

 

Not when it comes to the fake prophet, Muhammed. He's an easy target because of who he was, what he said and what he did. No one has to make up anything.

 

You're probably going to find out it was a mistake to toot your own horn.:tonofbricks:

 

LadyEagle I think that you should go back and read my posts again. This time s-l-o-w-l-y so you don't miss out on anything that I have written. You will see that I have fully qualified my statements. So please do not quote me out of context. Also at least I am trying to give them the gospel. What are you doing? I mean besides being a pain in the neck to me?

 

But they do anyway.

 

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Originally Posted by carpro
Not when it comes to the fake prophet, Muhammed. He's an easy target because of who he was, what he said and what he did. No one has to make up anything.

Is it true that when he was in his fifties, he married a 7 year old child and consummated the marriage when the child was 9?

 

But they do anyway.

No, get it right - she was 6 and 9. Her name was Aishah, his third wife and the only virgin he ever married. He married his first wife, Khadisha, when he was 21 and she was 40; she was his only wife for the next 25 years until she died.

That's not in the Koran, but it is in the hadiths. This isn't something I knew, but it's easily available.

So with all this, why make things up?

 

Islam is nothing more than the Replica of the ancient Idolatry. Abraham was called out of such Idolatry by God, and Abraham followed His calling by putting his faith in Him. If you don't see this great Forest, then you are miserable among the Trees.

 

Sounds like a great guy to have for a prophet.

 

Unfortunately they do not accept any of the New Testament writings apart from those that are supposed to be written into the Quran. Some do not even regard the Haddiths as inspired. So I quote the New Testament at every opportunity. Their minds are closed. If there is anything that causes me to cast myself onto the Lord it is this. Where there is literally nothing but the word of God to use with them. I must trust to His word when He says,

(Isaiah 55:11)

 

So why make things up?