All I Want For Christmas Is My Jesus Doll

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  1. pinoybaptist

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    There's a thread about this in this same forum, but here goes another one. The title is exactly the title in the Newswithviews.com article which old delivery boy daemon threw at this groundhog's hole's front, and took the sleep of this shiverin' groundhog.

    I'm going to slice the post in three with a few comments of my own.

    November 15, 2006
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    Wonder what the writer meant with "Not" ! Maybe he meant "Nuts" ?

    Well, I guess he has a point here. There are Christian families who will be offended by a Jesus doll, (and they're not necessarily just Primitive Baptists such as mine), and the majority won't, like the majority in the BB in the other thread says this is such a wonderful idea, (and I am sure there are a number of Primitive Baptists who will also like the idea).

    Now, a poster in the other thread contends that there's nothing wrong with Jesus dolls quoting Scriptures, and that this is just another way of getting the gospel out. He quotes Mark 16:15.

    But Mark 16:15, assuming it is a command to "win souls" for Christ, was directed to human beings to go out and use their voices to preach the gospel, not robot sounding doll voices. Deuteronomy 6 also directs believing human beings to teach their children the ways of God, not to make toys that will teach their children the ways of God.
     
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    All I Want For Christmas Is My Jesus Doll-2

    I think with all the advances in technology someone will come out with the idea of creating a synthetic Creator God symbolized a booming, robotic voice coming out of some hidden speaker behind a dark foreground saying things like, "let there be light" and so on, and then the voice becomes a bright mist that envelopes a miniature synthetic soil out which will slowly form and rise the likeness of Adam and Eve, while another softer voice in the background cites the appropriate Scripture with a little faint musical background, eh ?
    And while the little kids are playing, the parents are out romping somewhere, eh ?
     
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    All I Want For Christmas Is My Jesus Doll-3



    I betcha that toy will be 'donated' to the poor next Christmas.

    We don't really take Jesus seriously anymore, despite the protestations of those who says this doll is such a good "Christian" idea.
    The Muslims will behead anyone who portrays Mohammed in any film, play, or picture. And Mohammed is a creature just like those who revere him. He is dead, rotten, decayed, just like those who revere him will be when they die.
    But they seem to have more reverence for their prophet than Christians who supposedly worship the Creator God.​
     
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    Pinoy, it is just a toy. Of course you being primative Baptist, I understand your concern....

    You would be against puppets also in youth ministry. We used to be involved in a youth puppet team... we had a Jesus puppet.

    How many dolls will be laying in mangers this Christmas during Christmas plays?

    This is just a doll that speaks scriptures and sings jesus loves me... How can this be wrong? We would be placing them into the hands of children that may have never heard about Jesus. It may get their curiosity up.

    I simply disagree that this is a bad thing.
    I tell you what... they can send our church the 4000 dolls, and we will see that they get into the hands of needy children.

    And maybe witness to the parents at the same time.

    If no one else wants to, I will.
     
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    ==I don't really consider myself primitive but I don't like the doll idea. It is a mockery of God Himself, it is reducing God to an action figure. We, as Christians, should have more fear of God, more respect for God, and more love for our Savior than to make His image into a play doll for children.

    Does this doll offend me? Not really. I just don't think it is a good idea.

    ==That is really grasping for straws. The best way to get the Gospel to adults is by forming relationships and telling them about Christ, or preching the Gospel in a church service (etc). I doubt many adults are going to follow Jesus because of a recorded voice in a doll. Children will not either. The only children who are really going to get a hold of this doll (if it is ever marketed) are Christians children (children of popular, feel-good, post-modern evangelical parents). What does it teach them? That God can be reduced to a play toy, to something they can control. That is a dangerous lesson.

    Besides all of this such "talking" dolls can cause alot of problems. I am reminded of story my uncle would tell years ago (man that sounds old). His daughter had one of those talking bears (Teddy Rupskin, sp?). They kept the doll in the toy room down stairs. Well one night when his wife and children were out of town, and he was home alone, that doll almost got its head blown off. He was walking from the kitchen, down the hall, into the den. --(some history) The house is old (it belonged to my grandmother) and is very spooky. In fact one of the farm workers (back when it was a farm house, late 60s early 70s) claimed to have seen the ghost of my great-grandmother walking down the stairs. Of course everyone thought the woman was crazy, and she probably was from what I have heard (she died before I was born), but still knowing that story would keep me out of that hallway at night. The hall is sort of long, it turns half-way, the stairs open up right after the turn, and there are several rooms that open up on that hall. It is generally dark because there is only like two lights in the whole hall. Needless to say you will not see me walking that hall at night. I don't think I would even be in that house at night by myself. O, I don't believe in ghosts but that is one creepy place. (end history)-- Anyway he was walking past the stairs and the toy room and all of the sudden a voice rang out "Hello There!" (or something like that). He said he dropped everything and ran for the gun. Well, lucky for the doll, he figured out what it was before he did some real damage. So I don't think talking dolls are a good idea. I think it would be really bad for someone to, in a moment of fear, do something harmful to a "Jesus doll". Can you only imagine?

    Meaningless story? Maybe, but I hope it lightens the mood a bit and I think it shows one reason I am generally against talking dolls.

    By the way I agree with your assesment of Mark 16.
     
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    Us Primitives have to stick together. I agree with Brother Pinoy.

    I do not like the idea of reducing Jesus to an action figure.

    A parent who lives their life for Christ is a better witness to a child than any talking Jesus doll.

    I can thank my mother for raising me with the strong morals that I have and for teaching me the things of God so that I could see the truth after I was born-again.

    I would guess that most of us could say the same about some older person in our lives, parent or not.
     
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    It offends me and your points are valid points. I find the idea disgusting. It just goes to show people can justify anything, even what amounts to blasphemy. BTW, I'm Southern Baptist.
     
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    Dolls can be possessed by the devil, can't they? Ever see Talky Tina on The Twilight Zone ? :laugh:
     
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    I am going to do something that rarely gets done on BB...
    I am going to retract this quote.
    I am not thinking straight because I am worried about my son, and really don't want to worry about dolls right now...
    (for those of you that don't know about my son, click here http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=35078 )
    He had 43 seizures today, so as you can see, I am not in the right frame of mind to debate... so just forget I added anything to this thread...

    Oh, and please pray for my son.
     
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    I did not know about your son, tinytim. I am truly sorry, and will keep him and you in my prayers. Remember that the Bible says God is faithful and will not allow us to go through temptations we are unable to bear.
     

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