American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009

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  1. Dragoon68

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    Take the time to read the "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009" to see what the fools in Congress and the White House are about to do with your money. After you go through all the line items you'll see all the various agencies that are going to be given lots of play money for junk that has nothing to do with building up the economy. It should make you made enough to give your "representatives" a shout but don't be surprised if they're not representing you any more.

    You can query for it on the Library of Congress web site.

    When you get done with this think about what could be done if all this money stayed in the hands of you and other Americans who actually have good ideas about goods and services to make and sell to others. That, friends, is the economic stimulus we need - not the proposed $900 billion spending spree by the federal government.

    You'd better protect your hard-earned money now because once it's wasted you're not getting it back but you will be paying the bill along with your children and grandchildren.
     
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    Let me help you a little bit:

    - $43 billion for extended unemployment benefits
    - $20 billion for increased food stamp benefits
    - $4 billion for additional Supplemental Security Income payment
    - $2.5 billion for temporary welfare payments
    - $1 billion for home heating subsidies
    - $1 billion for community action agencies
    - $40 billion for subsidized health care insurance
    - $87 billion to help states with Medicaid
    - $20 billion to modernize health information technology systems
    - $4 billion for preventative care
    - $1.5 billion for community health centers
    - $420 million to combat avian flu
    - $335 million for programs that combat AIDS
    - $43 billion for transportation projects
    - $12 billion for mass transit
    - $31 billion to build and repair federal buildings
    - $19 billion for water projects
    - $10 billion for rail and mass transit projects
    - $41 billion in grants to local school districts
    - $79 billion in state fiscal relief to prevent cuts in state aid
    - $21 billion for school modernization
    - $16 billion to boost the maximum Pell Grant
    - $2 billion for Head Start
    - $32 billion to fund a smart electricity grid
    - $6 billion to weatherize modest-income homes
    - $10 billion for science facilities
    - $6 billion for high-speed Internet access to rural and under-served areas
    - $1 billion for the 2010 Census
    - $13 billion to repair and make more energy-efficient public housing
    - $3.2 billion to clean up waste sites
    - $400 million for habitat restoration projects
    - $850 million to prevent forest fires
    - $4 billion for grants to state and local law enforcement

    Don't forget that $900 billion is $900,000,000,000.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    - $43 billion for extended unemployment benefits-not a stimulus
    - $20 billion for increased food stamp benefits-not a stimulus
    - $4 billion for additional Supplemental Security Income -not a stimulus
    - $2.5 billion for temporary welfare payments-not a stimulus
    - $1 billion for home heating subsidies-not a stimulus
    - $1 billion for community action agencies-not a stimulus
    - $40 billion for subsidized health care insurance-not a stimulus
    - $87 billion to help states with Medicaid-not a stimulus
    - $20 billion to modernize health information technology systems-not a stimulus
    - $4 billion for preventative care-not a stimulus
    - $1.5 billion for community health centers-not a stimulus
    - $420 million to combat avian flu-not a stimulus
    - $335 million for programs that combat AIDS-not a stimulus
    - $43 billion for transportation projects-not a stimulus
    - $12 billion for mass transit-not a stimulus
    - $31 billion to build and repair federal buildings
    - $19 billion for water projects-not a stimulus
    - $10 billion for rail and mass transit projects-not a stimulus
    - $41 billion in grants to local school districts-not a stimulus
    - $79 billion in state fiscal relief to prevent cuts in state aid-not a stimulus
    - $21 billion for school modernization
    - $16 billion to boost the maximum Pell Grant-not a stimulus
    - $2 billion for Head Start-not a stimulus
    - $32 billion to fund a smart electricity grid
    - $6 billion to weatherize modest-income homes
    - $10 billion for science facilities-not a stimulus
    - $6 billion for high-speed Internet access to rural and under-served areas-not a stumulus
    - $1 billion for the 2010 Census-not a stimulus
    - $13 billion to repair and make more energy-efficient public housing
    - $3.2 billion to clean up waste sites-not a stimulus
    - $400 million for habitat restoration projects-not a stimulus
    - $850 million to prevent forest fires-not a stimulus
    - $4 billion for grants to state and local law enforcement-not a stimulus

    Don't forget that $900 billion is $900,000,000,000.
     
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  4. LeBuick

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    I bolded the ones I think should be removed. They can always be included in other legislation but I don't think they are stimulus in nature. I really wish the GOP would go after the waste knowing that a plan will pass with or without their support. They could do something good for the people by having the waste removed. Instead those guys came out with their own plan which was 100% tax cuts and accuse the other of being partisan. It is them who are not compromising. That plan is 1/3 tax cuts.
     
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    A pox on both your houses. There should be not one penny for a bailout. Both Democrats and Republicans are the ruin of this nation. Remember 2008, when Bush, his Republican and Democratic buddies in Congress crammed down a 700 billion dollar bailout down our throats (no, 850 billion to get votes they added 150 billion in pork). On top of that, the money was either squandered, stolen, or both as the result of inept managers like Paulson and Bernake. The money is gone, and not one good came of it, except expanded national debt.

    Now we have Act 2, of the same nonsense. What is so hard about understanding if you do the same thing, you are going to get the same result? It is just different names. This time it is Most Liberal Obama instead of Liberal Bush.

    The end result, the bottom line, is that we have wasted 2 trillion dollars, with not a thing to show for it except added debt for our kids.

    Republicans grandstanding to cut 10-20% out of this bill is the height of hypocrisy. If they were truly standing for conservative principles, they would be standing to defeat this bill and demand the last bill be revoked and the money returned to the treasury.

    The Republicans deserve the fate of extinction. We need a group that knows what conservative means.
     
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    home heating subsides come through the community action agencies, sounds much like the same thing to me.
    Don't see much stimulus on the list.
     
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    I saw $470 million in tax breaks to Hollywood got cut out. In a way, that's a bummer. I would have LOVED to see the zero tell everyone there their salary would be maxed out a $500K a year, y'know, like he told the banks he strong-armed.
     
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    For those old enough to remember this is reminiscent of the Roosevelt WPA of the Roosevelt depression. WPA was called We Piddle Around.
     
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    I'm beginning to think that you aren't accidentally wrong, but that you are wrong deliberately. The banks came looking for a bail-out. President Obama didn't "strong arm"anyone. Try to tell the truth Curits. Lying isn't Christ like.
     
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    Posted Oct 15, 2008 11:05am EDT by Aaron Task in Investing, Newsmakers, Recession, Banking Related: JPM, WFC, BAC, GS, MS, C, XLF
    The day after the news about a watershed change in American capitalism, the story behind the story of how Hank Paulson forced the nations top 9 banks to take capital is coming to light.
    After a discussion of the state of the banking system and U.S. economy, the bankers were then unceremoniously handed a one-page term sheet outlining Paulson's plan. The bank CEOs "weren't allowed to negotiate," The WSJ reports. "Paulson requested that each of them sign. It was for their own good and the good of the country, he said, according to a person in the room."
    In sum, Hank Paulson made the bank CEOs an offer they couldn't refuse -- like a present-day (and real) Don Corleone....



    http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker...AC,GS,MS,C,XLF




    It WAS Obama that limited their salaries. You got a lot of nerve throwing Christ around like that. Shame on you, DF. Back on my ignore list you go. You are not worth talking to.
     
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  11. LeBuick

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    I thought Paulson worked for Bush???
     
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    There's an ignore list?! Oh man... I'm cutting out ALL the Obamorons!
     
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    Bush ? Why bring Bush into this ?

    Bush nationalized the Banks, yes. Paulson made them take the money, yes. But Obama limited the salary. I don't know what is so hard to follow......I don't know how federally limiting a salary isn't strong-arming.

    And yes, I would still love him to tell Harrison Ford how much money he can make.
     
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    Because that was Bush and not Obama...

    So they can receive TARP money then give the CEO $10 Million bonus? Obama is not the one who forced them to take the money but as a tax payer I don't want to see it go for a bonus when it's intended to ease things for the suffering people. That is partly how we got in this mess. Corporate greed.
     
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    This is very sad. No wonder no one's spending money or hiring employees right now. Everyone's scared to death and holding onto their money. Unfortunately, the government will still get it.
     
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    I'd rather see the government not spend any money at all on this spendulus idea but, if they are going to do in spite of us, then I wish they'd just focus on one or two critical things such as $200 billion to help build twenty 2,000 MW nuclear-powered electric generation stations
     
  17. LeBuick

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    Do you have kids? Would you really want one in your back yard?
     
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    No problem at all for me! I've been around a lot greater risks! They make a lot more electricity than a bunch of wind mills.
     
  19. Creyn

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    The more the merrier, and I DO have kids. The US NRC is the best in the world, and nuclear power is the cleanest, safest and most efficient source of energy in the universe, but because of crazy 60s throw back NIMBY protesters, we have less than a hundred plants in operation in America today.

    Don't take my word for it... listen to GreenPeace (YES GreenPeace) FOUNDER Patrick Moore:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/14/AR2006041401209_pf.html
     
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    We've yet to figure out what to do with the waste...
     

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