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Discussion in 'Forum for Polls' started by Joseph_Botwinick, Jun 16, 2006.
Where do you stand? Vote Now!
If I break a law, I am punished.
It shouldn't be different for anyone else.
And even more so for those that are not citizens and thus have no rights as an American anyway!
No, they should all be sent home, if they want to live here let them do it the legal way, apply before they come here. Illegal is illegal, now we're changing a law to make it less illegal, so people who have committed a crime get off.
Thanks for a balanced poll there Joe. :laugh:
From a political standpoint, the President's plan is not going anywhere. It is dead in the water. The Senate will not agree with the House, and vice-versa. It is a political hot potato in an election year. The President's plan has following points.
1. Provide better security along the southern borders. I think most US citizens would agree with this.
2. Provide penalties to US companies that hire illegal immigrants. There would be no reason for them to come if companies wouldn't hire them in the first place.
3. Provide a means where immigrants who are here now illegally can gain legal status if they meet certain criteria and provide a means for gaining eventual citizenship.
One, what is wrong with this? And two, what is the alternative?
* Do you want to send everyone to their home country? If so, what is the cost for this?
* Most of these people are working. That's why they came. What will happen to the economy if they all leave? Who will pick the vegetables and build our homes and clean the hotel rooms - just to name a few immigrant-friendly jobs?
* What if their spouse or children are here legally? Do you want to break up their families? Let's send dad home while mom and the children stay??
* What is the home country like? Do you really want to send Venezuelans back to Chavez and Cubans back to Castro?
It's a lot more complex than to simply "send the bums home." I give our President, Senator McCain, and others credit for trying to come up a workable solution.
I live in an immigrant city. Most people here were born in another country and most speak a language other than English when at home. Most immigrants here are hard-working. They know what it is like to live somewhere else. Many came through hot water to get here. They are grateful to be here. And they are very proud when they become American citizens.
My children are first generation Americans. They are aware (and proud) of their heritage. They speak another language in addition to English. And they are very grateful to their grandfather for coming to this country so many years ago.
What does that say to the people that obey the law, and go thru the legal process to become U. S. Citizens? I'll tell you- it's a slap in the face to them.
I disagree. People are here already. What would you propose? Let's round 'em up?? Also, does this mean that we create lax immigration guidelines across the board? No, of course not.
The program does not provide amnesty, though the far right likes to say that over and over and over. Instead, it provides the methodology for these individuals to become legal immigrants, and eventual citizens.
For this occur, they have to meet certain guidelines. It is not giving them a free pass. Also, the President's proposal increases border security and has fines for employers -- both of which are important too.
From a Christian standpoint, what a great opportunity to show God's love in action and to share the Gospel. Naah, never mind.
So if you're "illegal" long enough you're suddenly "legal"? I sure hope Satan is listening. Satan's been tellin' this lie since he started. Guess if you tell a lie often enough, and convincingly enough. Just ask Hitler, Saddam, and Jim Jones.
So you're comparing Bush & McCain to Satan, Hitler, etc.???
As stated before, the proposed law does not make illegal immigrants legal. Instead, it provides a means for them to become legal. Why is this hard to understand?
So, what do you propose instead?