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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. Zaac

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    A lot of black folks do. But we'll just put you in with that group of folks that black and white folks know doesn't care if they think something that elicits a period of mistreatment ,hangings and rapes and beatings and murders of people because of their skin color is racist.:thumbs: It's good that folks know these things.

    It's like a Jewish person living next to a German person who finds Schindler's List to be hilarious.

    You must ask them.

    Nope. But neither have I forgotten that these certain elements were born out of response in large part to sentiments similar to yours.

    You'd have to ask. The Black experience and idea of racism seems to be completely different from what the average conservative , Hannity and Limbaugh listening, GOP member thinks it is.
     
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    Do you think modern liberal democrats are honest about it ?
     
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    If you believe Amos and Andy elicit, then you've clearly never heard the show.

    Right. Two black family men who own their own businesses and are respected pillars of the community = genocide.

    Since I don't listen to Hannity and Limbaugh and am not a GOP member, I wouldn't know. But nice of you to assume.
     
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    gosh, I've heard the show and watched with black and folks to see what the deal is with it. The black perspective is completely different from the white perspective because they've grown up, in a lot of instances experiencing different things.



    No one said that.



    I didn't say YOU were. I was juxtaposing two distinct groups. I wasn't saying you were a part of the second.
     
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    So, which part of the show did these alleged "black and folks" say
    elicited "a period of mistreatment ,hangings and rapes and beatings and murders of people because of their skin color"?

    Actually, you did. You compared Amos and Andy to a film about genocide by the National Socialist Democratic German Workers' Party.

    Sure, you weren't.
     
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    Yes, I watched Amos & Andy as a boy growing up----thought nothing of it----didn't bother us a bit to watch it as it did to watch Gunsmoke----Amos & Andy--all black cast----Gunsmoke--all white cast---so what????? Big deal!!

    I wonder why such shows back then that were "no big deal"----all of a sudden we make watching such shows today ---reruns--"against the law"(politically incorrect) today??
     
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    I'm not so sure that they weren't "no big deal", they did eventually go off the air. The times were sooooo different, 1951-1966.
     
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    Well, those black folks can disagree with what we say, but they can defend to the death our right to say it.
     
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    Being called a racist means nothing anymore.

    I've been called a racist because I disagree with Obama's tax policies. I've been called a racist because I've mocked Bob Costas' habit of working Jackie Robinson's name into literally EVERY conversation, no matter how irrelevant. I've been called a racist for showing Song of the South at our family's movie night. I've been called a racist because I think Islam presents a danger to the rest of us. I've been called a racist for no other reason than that I have a Southern accent.

    It's been so abused that it means nothing anymore and those who use it couldn't care less that they're hurting the cause they claim to support.
     
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    I've never watched the show, but I've heard the radio show.

    I guess it does reflect the stereotypes in existence at the time as well as the viewpoint in existence at the time...but then so does any show I know of.
    'I Love Lucy' in the 1950's sometimes reflects the idea that women can't handle a job outside the home--I'm not saying this because Lucy (in the show) is a housewife, but because they actually talk about this in some episodes. (Of course it obviously has women actors, too, and Lucile Ball was very talented--so, there's that.) That doesn't stop me from watching it. I even have whole seasons on DVD. (I'm a woman, by the way. Not sure if that makes any difference or not.)

    Not sure if that's a valid comparison or not. Obviously it's nothing compared to a whole race being oppressed under slavery and spending the next century trying to be seen by the general populace as equal human beings.

    But just saying that to deny that is to deny history. Even Bugs Bunny cartoons make fun of blacks a little--I grew up watching 'em. Do I agree with making fun of blacks simply for being black? Of course not.
    Huckleberry Finn has the 'N word'. Do I agree with it's use? Frick no. But neither would I agree to removing it for the sake of being politically correct--it's part of history, and it's use in the classic book is historically accurate to the time it's set in. It shows us how times have changed since then.
    And I'm sure there are black folks who disagree--but you know what? Not all of them do. I know this for a fact.
     
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    Excellent show to use as an example - there was an epsoide that Ricky accidently hit Lucy - and she got a shiner - Fred and Ethel though that husband abuse was the factor - so Lucy and Ricky pretend it was - and the plot was in comedy form. I suprised that the N.O.W hasnt demanded that epsoide be prohibite from being shown.

    Same with the Honeymooners - how many times did Ralph threaten his wife with physical violence - by saying - to the moon Alice - to the Moon?

    And as I have stated before why arent Liberals saying that most TV Sitcoms are sexist by showing Dads as incompentent animals?
     
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    I'd be curious to know if the actors in the Amos & Andy TV show ever at any point expressed any opinions on it and the cultural/racial aspect.
     
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    Excellent question


    Actor Alvin Childress (Amos) had a degree in Sociology.
     
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    And Williams worked in Army Intelligence. Quite a pair, but I couldn't find anything that indicated they'd ever made an comments about the show, though after CBS cancelled it, they apparently tried to return it to the Vaudeville stage, but CBS considered that a copyright infringement and asked them to stop.
     
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    Doesn't bother me a bit to have a copy of Uncle Tom's Cabin in my personal library alongside Twain's Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn----it doesn't make me a racist to own UT'sC!!!:type::type:
     
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    I remember the radio show!
     
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