An ancient chronicle

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  1. Helen

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    http://www.history.pomona.edu/kbw/h100y/chronicon.htm

    This is the chronicle of Isidore of Seville, as translated by Kenneth B. Wolf. It is fascinating, as it comes from the seventh century A.D. Here is part of the beginning:

    PREFACE
    Julius Africanus, under the emperor Marcus Aurelius Antonius, was the first among us to compose, using a simple style of history, a brief chronology organized according to generations and reigns. From there, Bishop Eusebius of Caesaria and the priest Jerome of holy memory edited a multipart history of the canons of chronicles organized according to reigns and times. After these came others, in particular, Bishop Victor of Tunnunna who, having reviewed the histories of the previous times, filled out the deeds of succeeding ages up to the consolate of Justin the Younger. We have recorded here, as briefly as we were able, a summary of the times from the beginning of the world up to the principates of the emperor Heraclius and of King Sisebut of the Goths, laying down, bit by bit, the descending order of times, so that, by means of the information provided, the whole of the past ages might be known.


    FIRST AGE OF THE WORLD
    1. God created everything in six days. On the first day he fashioned light; on the second, the firmament of heaven; on the third, the land and the sea; on the fourth, the stars; on the fifth, the fish and the birds; on the sixth, the animals and the beasts of burden and finally the first man, Adam, in his image.

    2. Adam, at age 230, bore Seth, who was born in the place of Abel. Seth means "resurrection" because in him was resuscitated the first seed, that is, the seed of the sons of God. Seth, at age 205, bore Enosh, who was the first to begin invoking the name of God. Enosh, at age 190, bore Kenan, whose name means "the nature of God." At the same time, Cain became the first, before the flood, to build a city, which he filled solely with the multitude of his own descendents.

    3. Kenan, at age 170, bore Mahalalel, whose name means "plantation of God." Mahalalel, at age 165, bore Jared, which means "descending" or "beseeching." Jared, at age 162, bore Enoch, who was lifted up by God, and who is reported to have written quite a few things, but which, on account of their antiquity, are refuted by the fathers as of suspect faith.

    4. Enoch, at age 165, bore Methuselah, who, according to his lifespan, is discovered to have lived fourteen years after the flood, yet he is not found to have been on the ark. On account of this, some conjecture, with false opinion, that he might have lived after the flood, having spent some time with his father Enoch, who was lifted up. In this generation, the sons of God lusted after the daughters of men. Methuselah, at age 167, bore Lamech. In this generation, giants were born. In this age also, Jubal, from the line of Cain, discovered the art of music and his brother Tubal Cain was the inventor of the arts of copper and iron.

    5. Lamech, at age 190, bore Noah who, by divine oracle, was ordered to build the arc in the five-hundredth year of his life. In these times, as Josephus reports, some men, who knew that they were about to die by either fire or water, inscribed their discoveries on two columns made of brick and stone, so that the memory of those things which they had discovered in their wisdom might not be erased. Their stone columns are reported to have withstood the flood and remain in Syria to this very day.

    6. In Noah's six-hundredth year, the flood is recorded to have occurred. Josephus reports that his ark came to rest among the mountains of Armenia, which are called Ararat. There were three sons of Noah, out of which seventy-two nations were born, that is, fifteen from Japheth, thirty from Ham, and twenty-seven from Shem.

    The first age came to an end in the year 2,242.
     
  2. Mike Gascoigne

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    Helen,

    The section you have quoted is well known material from the Bible and Josephus, but if you scroll further down in the Chronicon, you will find a reference to the flood of Deucalion which destroyed Thessaly when the Israelites were in Egypt.

    Velikovsky and others have suggested that the flood of Deucalion and the plagues of Egypt were both caused by the volcanic eruption of the island of Thera, otherwise known as Santorin, to the north of Crete. This was a so-called "super-volcano" where the centre of the island blew off, leaving a caldera.

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    Helen,

    You have plenty of time to start new threads, but I wonder why you don't comment about my questioninng of the mistakes about C-14 on Barry's web site. I know you may not consider yourself an expert in this area, but that has never stopped you from discussing such subjects, has it?
     
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    Did you notice that this independent witness to the creation order ascribes the stars to the fourth day of creation, instead of the first day? I think this is evidence for what the plain text of Genesis One says.
     
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    Does anyone know of any archaeological finds that might be these stone columns referred to?
     
  6. Mike Gascoigne

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    Does anyone know of any archaeological finds that might be these stone columns referred to? </font>[/QUOTE]Steven,

    See my web page:

    http://www.write-on.co.uk/history/index.htm

    Click on "Fact and Fiction in Babylon", and follow the links to other related articles, and you will see that there is a similar story about Xisuthrus, the Babylonian Noah, burying a history of the pre-Flood world so that it could be dug up again after the Flood.

    I have given the reasons why this story is impossible, and I think the same arguments have to be applied to the columns that were supposedly erected in Syria.

    In spite of this, the Babylonian history is something of great value, and it supports the Biblical account of Creation and the Flood on many important points.

    Hope you enjoy reading these articles.

    Mike
     
  7. Steven O. Sawyer

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    Thanks, Mike. Your site looks very interesting.
     

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