An honest critique Monsieurs.

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  1. SovereignGrace

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    At work tonight, a young girl, 23, presented herself to the ER. Apparently she had reached rock bottom, as all she owned was with her, which were the clothes she was wearing and a back pack full of her belongings. We began talking and were discussing her many tattoos. I asked her how many she had and she said 15. They were very pretty, very artistic, I must say. She told me where she was from, as we get many who come from neighboring counties as we also have a psychiatric ward, that also assists those who desire to get their life clean from drug abuse. She opened up to me about a scuffle she had had with her dad this evening and began bawling, saying all she owned was with her on her bed. She then mentioned God and Jesus and wanting to live. I then pounced and began talking to her. She had tears streaming down her face as I told her what Jesus can do. Before I left, I held prayer with her, asking God, that if she was calling out to Him, to save her. I told her that Jesus can do for her what no one else can do. I then told her about the Prodigal Son and all he lost and regained when he returned to his father. I gave her a Gideon bible and turned it to Luke 15 for her to read. As I was praying, I was standing over her as she was sitting up in the bed, and leaned on me and bawled. In fact, we were both crying. Please pray for this girl, seeing she is just 23.

    So, what, in your opinion, could I have done better in this situation? At work, we have to be careful to not overstep boundaries that could interfere with our job duties. But I also am not willing to leave someone broken hearted without first telling them about Jesus and what He can do for them. That is the thing, as Calvinists, we get wrongly accused of, not needing to witness to the lost. All the lost, every single one of them, need witnessed to. It is our duty to uplift Jesus' name to every heathen on earth. But what could I have done better? Please let me know!!
     
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    Drug addition is quite common and you never know what gets through to those in the midst of their drug-induced trouble.

    I say, "Well done".

    There's often not enough time for those face-to-face real conversations in the ER.

    I can only remember one after decades of working in the hospital.

    I'll be praying for her today.

    One critique, drop the "Calvinist" title - you're a "Christian"!

    Rob
     
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    Good work SG, sounds like she was sent to you and you were ready.
     
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    I don't think anything you did was wrong. You responded to her questions with the wisdom you have and that is great. I will pray for this young woman. She is the same age as my daughter and I can't imagine feeling so alone at that age!
     
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    Update:

    Later last night, I spoke with the psychiatric nurse that evaluated her, seeing if she needed to be admitted. As she was walking in, that girl was reading that bible I gave her. I told that nurse what transpired, and she is a christian, too, so we are both engaged in prayer for this 23 year old.

    Again, please lift up this girl in your prayers.

    Thanks for all the kind words. My heart truly goes out to her and my prayers up to Him on her behalf.
     
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    /sign

    Other than that, did you give her an invite to church?
    I remember the astonishment on my first visit to church, when i got invited for lunch right away, and the general kindness of those peeps.
    Seeing first hand how Christians treat you differently, than what you might be used to, has an impact that should not be underestimated.

    Nevertheless, well done.
    Noone ever bothered to witness to me, for like 20 years.
    In fact, i only recall ONE guy, ever, to talk with me about Jesus.
    Unfortunatly i was young, and proud, and ofc dumb, but in retrospect id love to someday, somewhere meet that guy again, and say "thanks".
     
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    You did just wonderful brother! I always love how Calvinism is put aside and the biblical invite is given when the Christian calvinist comes face to face with a witnessing moment. You did well! Blessings! I will be praying for her to see Jesus and make the call.
     
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    You must not be a Calvinist. There is nothing one can do to cause a person to believe on Jesus Christ. All you can do is tell them the gospel and see if God saves them. Doesn't matter how nice you are to them.
     
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    Our best efforts are badly flawed. But a Sovereign God can use those flawed efforts as the means by which His Sovereign Grace is applied to a new convert.

    Well done. :)
     
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    Sometimes saying nothing is better suited, non?
     
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    His Calvinism wasn't put aside. The Calvinist obeys the Great Commission to tell others of Christ with the full assurance that our Sovereign God has souls out there just waiting to hear the Good News.
     
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    Your ignorance of Calvinism seeps through each and every one of your posts. Please stop before you embarass yourself further. Merci beaucoup. Your backhanded compliment is duly noted, Monsieur.
     
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    Obey the Great Commission and obey the Great Commandment. "Love thy neighbor as thyself." And John 13:35 "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
     
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    Oh no. Unless God offers without violating man's free will, it is a coerced account. God holds His hands out so far, now they have to do their part. In other words, God does His part, they must do theirs. The creature has drawn a line in the sand God can not cross.
     
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    Sadly, they believe that hook, line, and stinker, Bro. TCassidy. Unless man moves, God can not. Sad.
     
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    What she really needed to hear was God loves her and sent Jesus Christ to die for her. But of course a Calvinist cannot give her that kind of love. So who knows if she will ever hear the good news.
     
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    I was listening to T.D. Jakes this morning. I actually like quite a few of his sermons, as long as he isn't fluffing the prosperity stuff. He was preaching about the woman who continually came before the king. He made a mention that if they pray long enough, God will save their son(speaking to the audience). Now, he believes in free will, if her son doesn't want saved, how can God violate their free will and also answer that woman's prayer? Their theology is so messed up, they do not see the obvious inconsistencies in it.
     
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    You really need to stop.
     
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    He can't. His hatred of the Gospel of Salvation by Grace alone through faith alone, and those who preach it, compels him to attack all that is good, and holy, and Godly. :(
     
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    What part of
    didn't you understand?
     
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