Anglicans are out of step and out of touch with reality

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  1. Gunther

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    I don't know if this was already brought up.

    It was not surprise to see the Episcopals accept the homosexual bishop. I don't know that anyone really believes saved people are part of the episcopals anyway, but it does demonstrate that once you allow the ordination of women, you can not disagree or stop the ordination of homosexuals and still be faithful to your theology.

    It isn't as though they serve any purpose other than to misrepresent Christ anyway.
     
  2. Rev. Joshua

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    Wow Gunther, that may win a record for most amount of inaccurate generalizations and insults in on paragraph. We're no longer allowed to discuss homosexuality here, but regarding the Episcopal Church in general; they are a fine Christian body with some of the most meaningful worship I've experienced.

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  3. Caretaker

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    2 Tim. 4:
    2: Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

    3: For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

    4: And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.


    Hopefully the Bible Believers in the Episcopal Church will do the right thing and separate themselves from this ordination abomination. If they sanction this heresy, then apostasy has truly taken over, and they are without excuse. Those that sanctify iniquity, and support leadership from among its practitioners are truly blinded by the god of this world and can have NO fellowship with Bible Believers.


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    Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew a right spirit within me.
     
  4. ScottEmerson

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    I just wonder how the link between allowing women ministers and homosexual members exists. Can that be proven or is it merely a hasty generalization?
     
  5. Johnv

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    I believe Presbyterians and the Reformed Church both allow women to be ordained. They don't allow gay pastors there, so I'd vote for the aforementioned statement to be a hasty generalization.
     
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    I grew up Anglican and came to a knowledge of Christ whilst there. My wife remains Anglican and we both attend an Anglican Church now. The gospel is preached and believed. The order of service differs to baptist churches.

    Christendom owes a great deal to many Anglican ministers for their godly writings, teaching in colleges, and their ministerial work in their parishes throughout the world.

    It is not beneficial to the Kingdom to paint all with one brush stroke. There are people who take a stand. They just don't blow their own horn so loudly.

    Cheers,

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  7. Rev. Joshua

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    Caretaker, from what I understand we're not allowed to discuss homosexuality here anymore. What you consider an abomination I consider a huge leap forward for the Church; but if we are to respect the Moderators' wishes we can't discuss it here.

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    The Bible is very clear that only God can decide if a person is saved or not,there are alot of potential variables involved in salvation and God alone decides true faith.Being a baptist doesn't save you as there are many various sects and most of them with different beliefs.Which one is correct?They all claim to follow the Bible exactly.
     
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    There are various churchts that have female ministers, The Salvation Army for one. I can see no link between this and Ho-ose-ual Pastors.

    I am not sure that the Episcopal church would have ever appealed to me in the past, yet who am I to judge which church God uses to save people. Obviously the recent goings on will cause many to leave, unless they are in favour of the idea.
     
  10. Mark Osgatharp

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    The Anglican church was created because the Pope wouldn't give King Henry an "annulment" (snicker, snicker). And yet they had the hypocricy to go on teaching that marriage is indisoluable. On top of that, they teach a host of other Catholic heresies.

    Furthermore, they have for several generations tolerated ministers who are universalists, unitarians, deny the virgin birth, the deity of Christ, the inspiraton of the Scriptures, the resurrection of Christ et al.

    So what's the big deal that they have now decided to be totally consistent with their inclusivism and include impenitent perverts in the ministry? Why is being a sexual deviant any more shocking than wantonly denying the Lord and His Scriptures?

    There may be a few born again folks that, for some ridiculous reason, attend Episcoal worship. To them the Scripture says,

    "Come out from among them and be ye separate."

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  11. mozier

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    Mark, I have no idea why you are so down on the Anglicans.

    First, Anglicans were NOT formed by Henry VIII's desire to have an annulment. Remember that after his death (and subsequently his son Edward's death), Mary brought the church back to Rome, only to have her kill many, many innocent people in the effort to "purge Protestants." When she was gone, Elizabeth compromised by making the church have elements of Protestant and Catholic, as spelled out in the Elizabethan Settlement. This document, if anything, marks the beginning of Anglicanism as we know it.

    As well, we owe the Anglican Church BIG TIME for making the King James Bible.

    And finally, why should bible-believing Anglicans leave the Episcopal Church? Why should THEY be the ones to leave? ****, NO!!!!!!!!! They should be the ones staying!!!!! If anything, their staying stands as a witness against those who have sought to destroy the church (under the pretense of "renewing" it). If they leave, then who will witness Christ? As one English bishop put it just a few years ago, "we are not threatening to leave the church; we are threatening to stay."


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    [ August 08, 2003, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Clint Kritzer ]
     

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