Anna Nicole Poll: Does 73000+ views merit fruit?

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Did Anna Nicole Smith bear fruit with her self confession of Jesus Christ

  1. Yes! she witnessed to 10's of thousands of un saved

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  2. No! this is not fruit

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    78.1%
  1. ASLANSPAL

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    How many of us had an opportunity to witness to 10's of thousands0 (and growing) individuals
    Do you believe that Anna Nicole has bore fruit with this video and if not1000 or 100 or even 1 is saved and sealed ...is it legitimate treasure in her account used of the Holy Spirit.

    On an earlier thread she was bashed by the fruit inspectors so is this absolute proof of the miracle work of God to use a person even after taking them home to His presence. grace.http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=37623

    Opposing view:
    --Sadly her lifestyle shows that she was not a follower of Jesus Christ. The Bible is clear that people who live certain lifestyles will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Rather they will end up in the lake of fire (see Rev 21:8, 1Cor 6:9-10, Gal 5:19-21, etc). A person's lifestyle reveals their true nature and their heart (1Jn 3:9-10, etc). I think it is very sad but I really, really doubt we will see Anna Nicole Smith in heaven. That is what makes this a triple tragedy. :tear:--Opposing view....legit???

    You decide...watch the video ...see the views...view the comments..at the very least and I do mean at the very least seeds were planted with the Help of the Holy Spirit. amen

    Again how many here have actually witnessed to 10's of thousands individuals and the number is growing.


    ItalianLoco (13 hours ago)
    That's so awesome that Anna was a believer :)
    1JasonT (1 week ago)
    This PROVES Anna Nicole Smith went to Heaven. Jesus wants everyone to go to Heaven. Romans 10:13 "Whoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Its as easy as your ABC's -- Admit that you were born a sinner (no one had to teach you to do something bad) and cannot save yourself from sin, Believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins and rose again for your sins, Confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Anna confessed Jesus as her Lord and Savior right in that microphone on TV.

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    pinkhairebeauty (1 day ago)
    well said babywu48. The bible did say that the road to hell is getting wider while the road to heaven is getting more narrower. Seems to me, you have to work extremely hard to get up there. Yes, God does not think like us but he does not want 75%, he wants 100%. You have to truly repent of your sins. Anyone can say that they repent and accept Christ but did they really? Christ did say, people who love me obey my commandments.
    [​IMG]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVILZlvc-pE


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  2. donnA

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    In the many many many threads we've had on the bb about christians and sin, any sin, no matter what it is, it has always been declared that that people who do any sin are not christians at all, which I disagree with, but the Lord told us what fruit to look for so we'd know the difference. Playboy bunny, drugs and alcohol, flaunting her body continuously, men, men, men, would you approve that behavior as being christian behavior? you seem to disagree with people saying it is not christian behavior. are we to speak out against sin or not?
     
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    you know you can 'say' anything, what you do tells what you really believe. I think we can look at the way she's lived her life and see what she believed. She didn't mess up once and sin, she did it constantly as a way of life, and liked it that way.
     
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    You know what? I am always amazed at how many of my fellow evangelicals will accept any "testimony" as proof of saving faith. It does not matter how the person lives as long as they say the right words then they must be a Christian.

    Folks that is not Biblical. Yes salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. However salvation does not leave the person trapped in sin. The results of true salvation is a changed life. No changed life? No salvation (1Jn 2:3-6, 3:9-10).

    Notice what Paul says about people who profess salvation but who, in their lifestyle, don't show that they are saved:

    "They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being destable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed" -Titus 1:16

    Notice how James words it...

    "What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him...Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being itself" -James 2:14,17

    True saving faith, true salvation, is seen in what it produces.

    I feel sorry for Anna Nicole Smith. However her lifestyle shows no evidence of true salvation (Gal 5:19-21). I can't pretend everything is ok with her when, in reality, I must doubt it is (based on Scripture). :tear:
     
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    back on topic ...IS THE VIDEO FRUIT...THOUSANDS WITNESSED TOO!


    Martin are you saying by your vote and by your opinion that the video did not bear any fruit what so ever and that she has no inheritance because of it...just asking...now remember the topic is the video and what it has accomplished try to keep it to that ...fair enough.

    by the way how many views has your blog gotten???

    Gods ways are not the ways of the fruit inspectors He can use whomever he wants ...even a sinner.
     
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    What did she believe in?

    What a bogus interview, makes you wonder who was playing who for a sucker.
    Sadly Ms. Nicole may have been too immature to understand what salvation was really about.
     
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    How do you mis understand a free gift...again Gods ways are not our ways it is filled with extreme paradox that reveals grace...it takes the "so called immature and poor in spirit" and actually seals them in grace and gives them a place in heaven....It is the arrogant cerebreal Pharisee that Jesus basically told them to "go to hell!"....they knew the word but they were more interested in taking advantage of the "immature" while God planned on saving them all along ...with a simple but powerful gift...Jesus Saves with no buts attached...that simple ...that powerful...heaven will be more populated than many people will realize ...that is not only GOOD NEWS(GOSPEL) BUT ALSO GREAT NEWS!



    Amazing how the Holy Spirit will use people others deem worthless and totally blow the naysayers out of the water...that is why I love God and agree with Him on the Pharisee spirit (control freaks)to those who are the true immature ones and are insecure in faith.

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    I think one thing is for sure...absolutely Anna Nicole Smith is in heaven ..safe...the next thing which I came to realize is this ...after hearing the fruit inspectors doubt her fruits...the video is absolute proof they are wrong ...she is bearing fruit even now with her testimony via video...she will continue to bear fruit as long as that video is out there.

    Now if you doubt that...then who can be saved according to your view???

    or must they meet your standards....I say bunk! on you take your seat with the pompous old bones of those who followed Jesus around to try to make him mess up.
     
  8. His Blood Spoke My Name

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    I watched the video, it was sickening. The way she talked you could tell she was not sincere.

    The dress with the breasts partially bared sure was not the sign of a Christian woman who is to dress in modest aparrel.

    Her agenda in the video was first and foremost to put her name out there, then to appease any who might frown on her lifestyle by talking about Jesus.

    I notice she was not the one to initiate the talk about the Lord, but the interviewer was. Makes one wonder what kind of publicity stunt it was.

    All I saw in it was 'I... I... I.... Me... Me... Me' nad then platitudes.

    If the lord she was promoting allowed her to remain in the partying lifestyle she was in, and allowed her to dress immodestly, I want no part of that lord. I will continue to serve the Lord Jesus Christ.
     
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    How can one say, "Jesus, come into my life and be my Savior and Lord," or whatever the words were, and then continue on willfully living a life of sinful rebellion? If you have zero interest in pleasing the Lord, following the Lord's commands, learning of the Lord, or turning from your sins, you are probably not saved!
    Anna may have been trying to serve two masters,but clearly only Christians can only serve one.
     
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    Who are we to judge? We are forbidden to do that.
     
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    Well Helen don't we have to be able to decern between those who say they are Christian and saved, that keeps us from falling into traps set by the devil. If we believe that Anna was an example of a saved person then we will think it is O.K. to live the type of lifestyle she led. Quite honestly , I do hope she was saved but all that is in God's hands now.
     
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    We are not forbidden to judge, Helen. Jesus Himself said in John 7 that we are to 'Judge righteous judgment'.

    Paul was sent a letter asking him to judge the matters in the Corinthian Church.

    If the actions and lifestyle of a person professing to be a Christian do not line up with the Word of God, we have every right to judge that person.
     
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    ==What kind of "fruit" are you talking about? Certainly not anything listed in Galatians 5:22-23. Anybody can claim that Jesus is their Lord and Savior however, and this is a BIG however, if their lifestyle does not line up with that claim then that claim MUST be viewed as suspect (1John 2:3-6).

    What did Paul say?

    "Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires" -Gal 5:24

    What are the works of the flesh?

    "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God" -Gal 5:19-21

    In other place Paul added to that by saying:

    "Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience" -Eph 5:6

    And again I point to Paul's other statement in Titus:

    "They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed" -Titus 1:16

    I think the Scriptures are very clear here.

    ==Honestly, I have no idea.

    ==Yes God can use whoever He wants. However if the question here refers to spiritual fruit being produced by a lost person, well, I think the answer is no (Rom 8:5-8).
     
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    ==The thing about it is, we do not have to judge. God's Word has laid it out so very plain. Sure many modern evangelicals don't want to hear that, I understand, but it is still there. Those who practice the flesh will not inherit the Kingdom of God (Gal 5:19-21, 1Cor 6:9-10, Rev 21:8). Indeed the Scriptures say that they can do nothing spiritually good nor can they do anything to please God (Rom 8:7-8, Titus 1:16). So we don't have to judge anyone. God has done that via His Word (Heb 4:12-13).
     
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    Amen Martin!

    As I posted, we are to judge righteous judgment. I see you have judged righteous judgment by judging by the Word of God.

    I commend you for that.
     
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    Her lifestyle stunk. I think we all agree about that. We can guess at the condition of her heart, but we are forbidden to judge the condition of someone's heart. We are commanded to judge actions and teachings, but not the condition of a person's heart. That province is entirely God's.
     
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    As Martin pointed out, she lifestyle did not reflect Christ. When one comes to Christ, one wants to do the things of Christ.

    The Word of God clearly states:

    James 4:4 (KJV) Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

    That verse judging her lifestyle shows she could not be saved, for it shows us she was an enimy of God.

    I rest my case. The Word of God has judged. She has been weighed in the balance and found wanting.
     
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    I would not dare to make that judgment. I do not know what her condition was like at the moment of death.

    The thief on the cross certainly did not have much in his lifestyle to recommend him to you, either, right?
     
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    The person with her made no mention of her repenting or confessing before her death.

    I am not saying she may not have, but there is no evidence.

    If she did not come to God at that time, her life has been found wanting. The profession she made in the film was nothing but show. It is evident if you watched that video. She was mocking more than confessing.
     
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    I think you are right about the film. But I DARE NOT judge her heart. I am not God.

    I'm not saying we can't make some pretty good guesses....as long as we admit they are guesses. What you or I are or are not aware of at the moment of her death is of no consequence.

    As I stated, her lifestyle stunk. But we are FORBIDDEN to judge another person's heart, and I take that quite literally.
     

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