Another Abortion Poll

That would be in God's words, in God's opinion then wouldn't it.
And there are people here who defend murdering a baby, born or unborn, saying the murderer is not a murderer. These same really do not care when life begins, they need to sooth themsleves with the worldy lies.

 

Fortunately, there is a very, very small group of Christians who feel this way.

 

Would not Psalm 139 verses 15 and 16 help us to know when life begins ?
and, what about Jeremiah 1 v 5 ?

 

If you misapply passages related to "breath of life" then no they will not help.

 

Of all abortion thread posts I've seen, this is far and away the silliest.


Separate DNA, functioning brain stem, able to see, hear, react...but it ain't alive.

Absolutely stupid.

And since we're on Scriptural definition (and not mis-application), look at Psalm 139.



See...here's my thing: I'm quite bothered by your hesitance to admit that an unborn baby is alive. Why would you be hesitant? The only outcome from this is it makes rationalizing abortion an easier jump to make.

Also...this "breath of life" definition means that anyone on a respirator is, by your definition, dead.

No thanks.

 

If we hold our breath for a minute, are we dead for that minute?

 

You want a straight answer? Don't hold your breath.

 

Jeremiah 1 v 5

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Psalm 139 verses 15 and 16
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

Where is the misapplication ? I thought this was about killing life in the womb, there is obviously being/life in the womb for God to know it, even the substance from which we are formed is known to Him.

 

The misapplication was not directed at you.

 

Sadly, I believe the stats are actually that 90% are aborted.

 

Two people voted that life begins at birth!

So what is the state of an unborn baby? Is he/she an object, non-human, dead?

 

True, I believe I take my definition from scripture that life comes with first breath and ends with last breath.

Notice I said completely dependent on life support. The ones that come back usually are only partially assisted with sustaining life. What I am talking about is no brain waves, assisted heart beat, assisted breathing etc... My believe is pull the plug and trust God to do His work.

 

None of those. They are a fetus. A potential life and a child waiting to be born.

I'm guessing you were being facetious...

 

All I can do is apologize if my views from the Bible bothers you and offer not to post in any further abortion threads. I'm not here to offend, just share with my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Not so, respirator is only part of life support. I don't see assisted breathing as dead.

 

I have no problem saying a pregnant woman is with child. And I use the same word child for a pregnant woman as I do a young child. Using the same word doesn't prove the Lords view on anything but the word child.

Ex 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

The common understanding of the word "mischief" in this verse is child that is fully formed. So to translate, if you cause a woman to have a miscarriage and the child was not fully formed, you will be punished according to the husband and fined according to the judges. However, if the baby was fully formed and if the baby or the mother does not live then you shall be put to death.

If God considers life beginning at conception, why would He allow a different punishment for a fully formed fetus than he does one that is not fully formed?

I am making this a rhetorical exit since my presence and views in these threads bothers one of my brothers in Christ. I won't post in abortion threads any longer.

 

when a christian supports abortion it soothes the conscious to believe thats not a real baby, a real human, in agreement with obama they aren't persons at all. so murdering one isn't wrong.

 

No, I was really serious. I was not clear on how you viewed the unborn baby if it is not a "life."