Originally posted by Kehn I don't get why that verse pertains to my challenge. What I get is circumcision has nothing to do with salvation. Being Jewish isn't enough to be saved, as he goes on in chapter 3. But that does not mean God's promise to Israel has been broken. Amen ! How 'bout that ? We benefit from God's covenant with Abraham !! I'm guessing if you believe these verses to be God's breaking his promise, you would have to throw out the book of Revelations. Originally posted by Kubel Facing trials with faith will bring a Crown of Life.(James 1:12) Again, I don't see it. I see praise for the church in Philadelphia. I have no reason to believe there are not Jews in hell today. Most likely there are a lot of them. We inherit the Kingdom of God. But I believe God has always wanted something special for Israel, and is waiting for them to repent, so he can give it to them. Genesis 15:18 In the same day the Lord made a covenent with Abram, saying, "Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the River of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates." Ezekiel 36: 18 & 19 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols[wherewith] they had polluted it: And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. Ezekiel 37 25-28 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. And yes, I am paraphrasing several study aides.....:wavey: And I am back in Montana, AT LAST !!!!!!!!!!!