Anti-vaccine crowd relying on bad science

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  1. go2church

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    Is this the same science methodology which gives us global warming and evolution? There are some deceived folk in high places.

    Oops, now we must call it climate change. B. Dalton, the bookseller is loving it.

    Are we looking for a new heaven and new earth--without all this bad stuff?

    Only Jesus can fix the problems man has brought upon himself. See the Book of Revelation--it is free for the asking.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    "Science" changes all the time.

    I have a question, if the vaccine is so wonderful and works so well why all the concern?
     
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    That science changes is a good thing, means we are learning. We don't want static science or we might still be hiring barbers to bleed us when we get sick.

    The concern is coming from folks with bad information, that's the point of the article. They are relying on group immunization to not get sick but in doing so endangering the health of others around them. The time to be immunized couldn't be more important, with the society we live in becoming increasingly global.
     
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    If people around them are immunized, and the vaccine works so well, what is all the concern?
     
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    Don't be coy, vaccines aren't absolute in every case, no one said they were. Vaccines are effective, particularly the MMR vaccine, in the 90% range. Vaccinating prevents in individual cases but also prevents diseases spreading on a regional or national level.

    It is not an accident or just a slow news day that brought the recent measle outbreaks in Dallas and California, now spread to Arizona, to the national attention. Measles is deadly, we have a way to prevent some 90% plus of these cases and yet people are resisting the vaccines that literally save lives based on very bad research done a very, very small scale in less than a controled environment.
     
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    Because there are babies born every day, children coming to this country from places without a vaccine an effective program, overall group immunity is under constant pressure to become smaller. We must stay vigilant, these diseases spread very quickly.
     
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    To bad their not requiring illegals from Mexico to get immunization. Also their influence on this recent outbreak is all but being ignored.
     
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    It's an idea, difficult to pull off, can't even get our own citizens on board.
     
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    Don't you think that is an over broad statement.
     
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    There are some children and adults who cannot get vaccinated and/or are in an immunocompromised state. It is obvious what happens when too many people choose not to be vaccinated - we end up with a disease that was almost eradicated coming back and infecting many. Measles is one of the most contagious diseases we have today and it's no surprise that it's back.
     
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    I see that Rand Paul decided to get vaccinated...with a camera present. Of course, he made a comment about liberal media spin.
     
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    Yeah it's so bad that even those who are fully vaccinated are getting it.

    What's the $cientific $olution? More vaccine$.

    A look a the graphs shows alot of the diseases that $cience has taken credit for eradicatiing were on the decline long before vaccine$ were invented. Improved sanitation, diet, and better ways of handling food were responsible for the drop in mortality rates. Before vaccine$ came along.

    Don't take my word for it. Look at the graphs. They're what ya call scientific evidence.

    By contrast look at today's junk food diet. The average American's diet today especially children consists of junk food and pre packaged chemicals called preservatives, artificial flavors and dyes and yes GMOs.

    I'm no doctor or expert but it makes sense to me that a healthy immune system is key to good health. How do you maintain a healthy immune system? Eating right, drinking clean chemical free water, getting the proper vitamins, regular exercise and rest.

    Popping a pill or getting a jab in the arm is not going to make up for a crappy diet or lifestyle.

    And like the Rev says, letting diseased people in the country isn't going to benefit us either. Unless you are a giant pharma company that benefit$ from the increase in illness and the media hype that follows.

    The corporate media is targeting Republicans who argue that the decision to inject children with demonstrably dangerous vaccines should be left to parents.
    MSNBC and the Democrats have turned vaccination into a political weapon by declaring it is “the new political wedge issue.”

    MSNBC claims Republicans “must balance the inarguable evidence showing the benefits of vaccination with lingering suspicion from many conservatives, who often regard entrenched institutions – from big government to the health care industry to scientists at elite universities – with skepticism.”

    This “inarguable evidence” ignores numerous cases where vaccinations have proved not only injurious, but fatal.


    http://www.prisonplanet.com/vaccination-agenda-used-by-democrats-to-divide-republicans.html

    Evidently that's not the only evidence they are ignoring.

    Man made global warming, "the $cience is $ettled". $hut up and pay your carbon taxe$ . Vaccine$, "the $cience is $ettled". $hut up and get your $hot$.

    HERE’S WHY THE STATE WANTS TO MANDATE VACCINES

    Parents get in the way of state indoctrination.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bZkekbHoJE

    "it's for the greater good", "your children don't belong to you", "only the state knows what's best for you".

    Is collectivism the newest form of conservatism?
     
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    Perhaps, but when a disease once thought of as eliminated to the degree such things can be established, makes a return, something is up!


    Poncho,
    That vaccines have become an argument of proof that the only thing the government wants is to control your kids instead of matter of public health is to me missing the point.
     

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