Anti- War Groups in Retreat

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7949.html

    Anti-war groups retreat on funding fight

    By: Ryan Grim
    Jan 17, 2008 06:03 AM EST


    After a series of legislative defeats in 2007 that saw the year end with more U.S. troops in Iraq than when it began, a coalition of anti-war groups is backing away from its multimillion-dollar drive to cut funding for the war and force Congress to pass timelines for bringing U.S. troops home.

    In recognition of hard political reality, the groups instead will lower their sights and push for legislation to prevent President Bush from entering into a long-term agreement with the Iraqi government that could keep significant numbers of troops in Iraq for years to come.
     
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    You really didn't think the dems were going to end the war after the hard work they've all done to get it started, did you ?
     
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    With things doing better in Iraqq it looks like the economy will be the number one issue for the election, further damaging the GOP chances in November. A recession is always damaging to the party occupying the White House.
     
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    recession?
     
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    So, it's the democrats who started Bush's war in Iraq? How strange!
     
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    ...no, it was all three heads of our gov't that started the war...but I'm sure you knew that already.
     
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    Sounds like something they'd sell at a porn store.

    If the economy gets any more stimulated, I'll be working seven days instead of six. There are oceans of goods and services out there that need to be traded. All we need is for the government to get out of the way and for people to realize that a college degree in your chosen field entitles you to NOTHING. To make a living, you have to do something that other people WANT. If you do, then they will give you money to do it.

    That's economics in a free society. No stimulator necessary.
     
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    http://www.nolanchart.com/article275.html

    Are things really getting better in Iraq or are we just "paying them to keep the peace"?
     
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    Why call it Bush's war when you know well & good Gore, Clinton(s), Kerry, Kennedy, & Dean were yelling for Sadaams's head way back in 1992 ?

    be honest, Terry, I mean Dagwood.
     
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    War is the health of the State. It automatically sets in motion throughout society those irresistible forces for uniformity, for passionate cooperation with the Government in coercing into obedience the minority groups and individuals which lack the larger herd sense. The machinery of government sets and enforces the drastic penalties. The minorities are either intimidated into silence, or brought slowly around by subtle process of persuasion which may seem to them really to be converting them. Of course, the ideal of perfect loyalty, perfect uniformity is never really attained. The classes upon whom the amateur work of coercion falls are unwearied in their zeal, but often their agitation, instead of converting merely serves to stiffen their resistance. Minorities are rendered sullen, and some intellectual opinion bitter and satirical. But in general, the nation in wartime attains a uniformity of feeling, a hierarchy of values culminating at the undisputed apex of the State ideal, which could not possibly be produced through any other agency than war. Other values such as artistic creation, knowledge, reason, beauty, the enhancement of life, are instantly and almost unanimously sacrificed, and the significant classes who have constituted themselves the amateur agents of the State, are engaged not only in sacrificing these values for themselves but in coercing all other persons into sacrificing them.

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    War turns (most of) us into obedient cash cow zombies and propagandists for the state so why should the democrats who are every bit as beholden to "the munitions makers" and the state as the republicans be against that? Bush's war? Hardly.
     
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