Any body else have an opinion

God's word should say exactly what it says, Ehud. Thankfully, God has provided various English Bible translations (other languages, too) that have presented His word clearly for various generations. These translations, although using different words to do so, all convey what God has handed down to us through the writers of the Bible.

Of course God said what He said.

The worst "translations" of God's word are those "translated" with the intent of making the Bible say what really wasn't said. The New World Translation (Jehovah's Witnesses), the Clear Word Translation (Seventh Day Adventists), and the Joseph Smith Translation, also known as the Inspired Version (Mormons), are great examples of the "worst" translations.

The FACT of the matter is that many English Bible translations accurately convey to us the plan of salvation and what we must do to be saved. Although there are a few minor differences in the wording of some of the ancient manuscripts, to the best of my knowledge not one of them presents "another gospel" or any teaching that denies Christ's virgin birth, His sinless life, His crucifixion, His burial and His glorious resurrection. The FACT is that English Bible versions do not have to be limited to one particular set of words to accurately convey God's word to us. Thank God He has graciously provided His word for us in translations that are just as easliy understood for today's readers as those translations easily understood by readers in 1395, 1525, 1535, 1568, 1587 and 1611. God's work of preserving His word continues today just as it has continued down through the years. Thankfully, God has not given up on this work and He still continues to preserve His word for us today.

Now, Ehud, what's your OPINION?

 

Aren't you the one who said that anyone who uses another Bible than the KJV is getting another Jesus?

 

Evidently the Lord and the Apostles had 'opinions' also- just look at any verses from the OT that are quoted in the NT. Welcome to REAL Christianity, without the KJVO idiocity.

 

I don't want to base my faith on opinion.

Could you give me a Bible answer to which Bible is the one we can trust please?

Please, no opinions.

 

Thing is, Roger, every translation is based upon the opinions of its translators, taking in everything from which mss are best to which of the many possible correct English renderings of many Greek or hebrew words/phrases.

I believe a translation should be literal as possible, with a common-sense approach to what constitutes the best renderings in English in a given verse from the possible renderings, made from both the local context and from an overview of the themes of all Scripture. That may be an opinion, but I see no other way to decide, besides influence from God.

 

Well, if we have reliable copies of the TR that represent the originals, then we know that Jesus quoted the old testament and quoted it in Greek, the LXX translation, and said "It is written."

And a study I read a long time ago showed that the majority odf his quotes were that way.

So, I conclude that Jesus approves of translations being called the word of God. And the LXX he had available probably was not inspired like the originals.

My final answer is that the above allows me to say that a faithful translation is the word of God.

I know, it is not a Bible verse, but I like logical implications.

 

I wondered the same thing . . .

 

Maybe it's a good thing there's another Jesus. More of Him to go around.

:laugh:

 

If appropriate translation, yes. If inappropriate translation, no.

 

Kindly give an example of an 'inappropriate translation' and why it is 'inappropriate' or does not accurately convey the plan of salvation.

Thanks.

 

Just wondering if any body else has an opinion on what “they think” is “the best” or “the worst” or what “they” do “not like” or maybe they are “upset” or maybe “unhappy” with, or what “they think” is “the best” or “worst” or someone wants to “cry” or how “they think” on what Gods Word should say. Or how about your opinion if God even really said what he said in His Word. Or how a verse should have, could have, maybe not, can be, what version is the best worst, might be, could be the best translation is God’s word. OPINIONS, anyone?

Welcome to 17th century Christianity


King James & Co.

 

Not me. I have no opinions.

 

I do. I'm loaded with opinion. And sometimes, I'm even right! :thumbs:

 

I, too, am curious. There was a recent thread about a pastor giving a message from the catholic Bible.

 

****GASP****

And it was an Independent Fundamental Baptist!!!!

What is this world comin to?

 

You know what I find is a bit ironic? The 1611 KJV with side notes like the original and the forward and introduction is supeior to todays KJV's. In fact if the spelling were updated and additional notes were put beside the 520 some odd words that need the old definitions so we could understand what they were really saying, it would be a very superior translation. In addition if the people were to read the introdutcion and forward there would be no KJVO controversy.:type:

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition):
For the whole Scripture is giuen by inspiration
of God, and is profitable to teache, to conuince,
to correct, and to instruct in righteousnesse,
17 That the man of God may be absolute,
being made perfect vnto all good workes.

note: 'perfect' here means 'complete'
or 'thorough' but not
'without sin' (1599 reading in this
scripture instead of 2007 reading).

IMHO "whole Scripture" here means the
scripture I posted here in the Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition
written in 1599 English and an appropriate translation..

Timothy 3:16-17 (TNIV = Today's New International Version):
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness,
17 so that all God's people may be thoroughly equipped
for every good work.

IMHO "all Scripture" here means the
scripture I posted here from the TNIV, written in
2006 English and an appropriate translation.

Please note, I live in the 21st century (2001-2100)
not the 16th century (1501-1600).

So the purpose of all scripture is to
enable & promote every Good Work.
IMHO I have many English versions I can read
each of which individually and collectively
are ALL SCRIPTURE: the Divinely Preserved Holy Written
Word of the Holy Living Word: Messiah Yeshua.

So if you dis my ALL SCRIPTURE you will be dissing
my Lord & Savior & I will rebuke you. Say,
All scripture is good for rebuking, eh :godisgood:

 

Say ED you have'nt moved to Canada have You?:laugh:

 

I have lived 60 of my 64 years within 25 miles
of a 'Canadian River'. Oklahoma has two
'Canadian Rivers'; Canada has none.

News Flash - 16 Nov 2007 is the 100th anniverservy
of Oklahoma Statehood. In honor of this event
ten miles of the North Canadian River (the part by
Oklahoma City) has been renamed The Oklahoma
River. So we have recently lost 10 miles of
our (Texas & Oklahoma) Canadian rivers.

BTW, I was born in Borger, Tx - on the South Canadian
river - I live now in exciting Central Oklahoma within
ONE MILE of the South Canadian river.

I almost live in Canada :laugh: