Any Theological Significance?

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  1. KenH

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    Is there any theological significance to the recent earthquake/tsunami or is this just another natural disaster as have been taking place for thousands of years, some on a vastly larger scale?
     
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    It was the illuminati... ;)

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    IMHO, I do not think there was any for those affected. Personally, I had briefly considered a vacation to Thailand for this time period; however, things did not work out. Coincidence?
     
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    Natural event.
     
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  6. Amity

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    short answer. yep.

    long answer....see article below:

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    Unfathomable Numbers

    I wish I could have left 2004 on a high note with the commentaries, but the Lord would not have that be the case...

    The current death toll from the earthquake and tsunami in India stands at 44,000 and continues to rise. This tragic event has been described by many news networks as a 'disaster of biblical proportion.' That many people losing their lives in a single act of cataclysmic upheaval boggles the mind of most who hear it. But let me say, my mind is not boggled, and according to the Bible, you ain't seen nothin' yet. During the coming Tribulation, 44,000 will not even be a drop in the bucket of the number of people who will be killed...

    Currently, there are approximately six billion people alive on planet earth. Before the Tribulation, Jesus will remove many to the safety of the Father's House in the Rapture of the Church:

    "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." ( John 14:2-3 KJV )

    I don't know the actual number of people who are really born-again believers, none of us do. That's known only to God. But for the sake of this commentary and to keep the numbers round, let's say that it's ten percent of the earth's population, or 600 million people that Jesus takes with Him in the Rapture. That will leave approximately 5.4 billion people on the planet when the Tribulation begins.

    Now the death toll really begins to take on numbers that the human mind cannot comprehend. In Heaven, the Lord Jesus opens the fourth seal of the scroll, bringing about the destruction of one-fourth of the earth's population:

    "And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." ( Revelation 6:7-8 KJV )

    Given the round numbers we're working with, this could be over 1.35 billion people killed leaving 4.05 billion people on the planet. Unimaginable to say the least, but it's not over. The Tribulation continues on through the Trumpet Judgements, and with it, death:

    "And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God...By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths." ( Revelation 9:13 & 18 KJV )

    The sixth trumpet judgement is blown, and one-third of the remaining population is killed, or another 1.35 billion people, leaving only 2.69 billion people on the planet. Attempting to put this into perspective, half of the entire earth's population that was left after the Rapture has been killed. And all this has taken place within the Tribulation's time span of seven years.

    Just try to wrap your mind around those numbers. Can't do it can you. You thought 44,000 was a lot. But what's even more sad is that many of those who died in India and will die during Tribulation have and will enter eternity not knowing Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Time as we know it is growing so short. Events such as this earthquake and tsunami are but another sign that the return of Lord Jesus is near:

    "And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." ( Luke 21:11 & 28 KJV )

    Jesus could come for His Church at any moment, and just as quickly as 44,000 lives were snuffed out, three billion more will soon follow. Please visit our Salvation page if you're ready to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

    Keith

    12-28-2004

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  7. KenH

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    Personally, I think it is a natural disaster, period, without any theological significance, but obviously some pretrib rapture folks might think differently.
     
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    It is certainly significant of the fact that sometimes God proves in a big way that He is still in charge.
     
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    yup.

    "And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." ( Luke 21:11 & 28 KJV )
     
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    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I think it was a natural disaster -- truly horrific, of course. But how could anyone know it was anything else, such as a judgment of God or sign of end times unless they claim God told them so? Of course, I am sure many will be claiming this! :rolleyes:

    I have no doubt that some will even claim that God told them of it in advance. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (That happened with 9/11).
     
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    we have record of future prophecy....contained in the very Word of God, the Bible. so yes, HE does tell us so.

    Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the Lord are pure words....Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

    Matthew 4:4 ....it is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


    In Christian love.
     
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    Jack Van Impe will find seventeen verses that predicted this (Until a new headline comes along to grab his attention). I'm pretrib and simply believe it's a natural disaster. There is NO Biblical prophecy (including the ole fig tree illustration and Israel becoming a nation) dealing with this age, except for general truths like "men will grow worse and worse." The quote from Luke 21 has nothing to do with the rapture - it deals with the Tribulation.
     
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    yup.

    "And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." ( Luke 21:11 & 28 KJV )
    </font>[/QUOTE]My redemption draweth nigh. [​IMG]

    And so does that of all a-millers, post-tribbers, etc., that have called upon Jesus to save them. [​IMG]
     
  14. Amity

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    I can find as many people that agree with you as do disagree with you on that statement. So, that means.....one of us is wrong. And I don't claim to be perfect...otherwise I would be God. I am not. (obviously) But I stand behind my original post nonetheless.

    In Christian love.
     
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    yup.

    "And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." ( Luke 21:11 & 28 KJV )
    </font>[/QUOTE]My redemption draweth nigh. [​IMG]

    And so does that of all a-millers, post-tribbers, etc., that have called upon Jesus to save them. [​IMG]
    </font>[/QUOTE]AMEN WILLIEMAKEIT!!! [​IMG] Come quickly Lord Jesus!
     
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    [ December 31, 2004, 12:52 PM: Message edited by: dianetavegia ]
     
  17. KenH

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    Interesting.

    I see we have a date setter amongst us. [​IMG]

    So if this doesn't happen by 2018, will you admit that your eschatology is wrong, or will you simply recalculate your date?
     
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    "Although natural disasters are increasing with intensity and frequency,"

    I don't think there is any statistical proof that natural disasters are increasing at all. In fact, I know I've read the number of eathquakes, for instance, has gone down or held steady.

    Prophecynut, are you saying Jesus is coming back in 2018?
     
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    It's possibly a wake up call but if it is, it probably won't end with the tsunami.

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    I've not studied eschatology but, to me, the destruction of 55,000+ people is certainly significant. If Matthew 24 applied both to the day of the apostles and the present day as it appears upon cursory reading, then this event would have to be posted on my "escalation of sorrows" list, which would record events beginning in the early 20th Century.
     

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