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Any Verse For Verse Bible Believers?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by tonytony, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. Ed Edwards

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    Tonytony: //Believe the correct teaching to 1 Timothy 2:9-14 ?//

    And what would that correct teaching be.
    Please give the answer in sentences. Thank you.

    Be aware that I'm the one who, with a preacher, provided
    male 'cover' for a woman who has (and still has, i think)
    her own bb (bulletin board).

    1 Timothy 2:9-14 (KJV1611 Edition):
    In like maner also, that women adorne themselues
    in modest apparell, with shamefastnesse
    and sobrietie, not with broided haire,
    or gold, or pearles, or costly aray,
    10 But (which becommeth women
    professing godlines) with good works.
    11 Let the woman learne in silence with all subiection:
    12 But I suffer not a woman to teach,
    nor to vsurpe authoritie
    ouer the man, but to be in silence.
    13 For Adam was first formed, then Eue:
    14 And Adam was not deceiued, but the woman
    being deceiued was in the transgression:

    I'm also the one who said 'Amen' to the pentacostal preacher
    who said: "If the barn needs painting - paint it."
    I also know that the most attractive makeup on a woman
    is the makeup you don't even know is there :)
     
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  2. tonytony

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    Floor is still open

    Well at least one person is catching on.

    If Romans 7:2-3 is offensive to somebody their just not a believer .
    Don't have to be that person's enemy.
    Their an enemy with God if this scripture offends them.
    Paul not telling me to be a chicken and hold back the rebuking.
    It he wanted me to he would have never written 1 Timothy 3:16.
    If I say where somebody spending eternity then Paul rebukes me in Romans 2.
    Calling an unbeliever an unbeliever with the scripture is telling the truth.
    Calling a believer a believer with the scripture is telling the truth.
    If John not throwing away John 14:6 then why hold back on what is truth?
    If I'm told what truth is with the book then how could I have truth of my own?
    How could anybody have truth of their own if their getting truth from the book only?
    Man got a lie and God got the truth only.
    If I'm a rookie talking then we need to throw away Romans 3.
    Let God be true and every man a lier.
    A believer can only be bold with the truth when they get it from the book only.
    The book never lie.
    A believer not confused on what is truth too long.
    Truth don't have conflicting sides to a story.
    Lies have conflicting sides to a story.
    Phonies are attracted to lies.
    Cowards are attract to lies and deception.
    Phonies and cowards are attracted to confusion even when simplicity is before their eyes and conscience enough.
    Cowards and phonies blames their unbelief problems on other people.
    Eve did the same thing blaming her unbelief problem on the serpent.
    You have an unbelief problem with Romans 7:2-3 then don't deceive yourself by quoting Matthew 7:1. Humble yourself to God . Stop fighting with God.
    God put 1 Timothy 3:16 in the bible for me to tell you to take responsiblity for your unbelief problem with Romans 7:2-3.
    He told me to tell you not to have an unbelief problem with 1 Timothy 3:16 not even if you have an unbelief problem with Romans 7:2-3.
    When you get rid of your unbelief problem then you'll stop being like Eve and blaming your problem on other people and scripture.
    If I say where your spending eternity then God will rebuke me with Matthew 7:1 only.

    Okay I said quite a bit to get to the heart of the matter.
    Excuse me grammar scholars.
    You really don't need any Ph. D education to state if your fake or not when reacting to these verses mention.
    A fake is an unbeliever.
    A confessing bible believer is just that.
    A confession bible unbeliever is just that.
    No Ph. D. education for discussion on this.
    What are you? Are we the equally yoked in Christ or are we wasting time with each other? Anybody can be bored for a pen pal friend at a computer!!!
     
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    tonytonetoni:

    WHy do I get the feeling that NOONE has ever passed your test -- except you of course....?

    JDale
     
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    What in the world are you talking about?

    Listen, my friend, I challenge you to put down what you are trying to say in one clear (grammatically correct wouldn't hurt) sentence exactly what you are trying to communicate to us. So far, you're not making much sense (at least to me).

    And another thing, you said "He told me to tell you not to have an unbelief problem with 1 Timothy 3:16 not even if you have an unbelief problem with Romans 7:2-3." I don't need someone to speak for God to me - I already have His Word.
     
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  6. Ed Edwards

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    Tonytony: //You have an unbelief problem with Romans 7:2-3
    then don't deceive yourself by quoting Matthew 7:1.
    Humble yourself to God . Stop fighting with God.//

    What is the user name for which 'you', is a precedent?

    Tonytony: //Their an enemy with God if this scripture offends them.//

    A Christian will realize that each person God crosses their
    path with was put there by God for a specific learning or
    lesson. To reject that lesson is to reject God.
    Humble yourself to God . Stop fighting with God.

    Here is how not to look ignorant:
    (the key is in the spelling, the words all sound alike)

    THEIR - stuff what belongs to them
    THEY'RE - short for 'there are'
    THERE - over yonder

    They're their own worse enemy over there.

    Tonytony: //Excuse me grammar scholars.//

    You are NOT excused. Grammar is a method of
    communication and one is not communicating
    if they don't use proper grammar.

    About 60% of the American population is easily put off with
    the 'ignorance doctrine'.
    While a Doctor's degree won't help one come to God,
    neither will it hinder one.

    What do you think of our friend who is the Vicar
    of a church in Holland and has two Doctor Degrees?
    Isn't she just as good a Christian as we are?
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    Tonytony: //God put 1 Timothy 3:16 in the bible
    for me to tell you to take responsiblity for your
    unbelief problem with Romans 7:2-3.//

    Perchance you mean 2 Timothy 3:16?
    If you would get in a habit of putting your scriputre
    in your post, you wouldn't be making such a common
    error. And people wouldn't have to check your
    scripture out to see what kind of a Christian you are.

    1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV1611 Edition):
    And without controuersie, great is the mysterie of godlinesse:
    God was manifest in the flesh, iustified in the Spirit,
    seene of Angels, preached vnto the Gentiles,
    beleeued on in the world, receiued vp into glory.


    2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV1611 Edition):
    All Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God,
    & is profitable for doctrine, for reproofe,
    for correction, for instrution in righteousnesse,
    17 That the man of God may be perfect,
    throughly furnished vnto all good workes.


    (we have already discussed the second of these two
    passages.)

    Tonytony: //If I say where your spending eternity
    then God will rebuke me with Matthew 7:1 only.//

    English lesson:
    Your - stuff what belongs to 'you'
    You're - short for 'you are'.

    which makes sense?
    If I say where 'the stuff that belongs to you': spending eternity ...
    If I say where 'you are' spending eternity ...

    Sorry: 'spending eternity' doesn't belong to any 'you'.
    So 'You're' is correct here.

    The Holy Spirit testifies to me :saint: that the writings of
    SBCPastor (which i've read many of) show that
    SBCPastor is a viable servant of God on the Mission
    Field in North Carolina. I'm sure going to be careful
    before I go dissing one of God's servants.
     
  8. webdog

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    it's been 5 pages and I still have no clue what tonytony is trying to say. :confused:
    If you are a believer, tonytony, no Scirpture should offend you. Nothing in the 66 books offends me, so I have no clue what you are trying to say.
     
  9. Ed Edwards

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    I have a clue what he is saying.

    Of course, I have half a Master's Degree in
    Counseling. I also have the Gift of the Spirit:
    'discernment of spirits'.

    The Gift of the Spirit called 'discernment of spirits'
    is supernatural insight given by the Holy Spirit
    into if an idea or action is:

    1. of God
    2. of the devils
    3. just human stuff

    (most are just human stuff)
     
  10. tonytony

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    Floor is still open

    The intellectuals and grammar scholars are too much for God.

    Who got the courage to just say if you believe the teaching in these verses:

    Believe in God's will concerning jewelry, apparel and church leadership?

    1 Timothy 2:9-14 is your first believer test.


    Believe in God's will concerning divorce and remarriage?

    Romans 7:2-3 is your second believer test.


    Believe in God's will concerning all scripture being for doctrine, rebuke, etc. ?

    2 Timothy 3:16 is your third believer test.

    Believe nothing in the book is for private intrepretation with 2 believers disagreeing intentionally?

    2 Peter 1:20-21 is your fourth believer test.


    Again no Ph. D. education here.

    After testing you out with these 4 verses would my God tell me we're both in believer agreement with his book?

    Would he tell me your the one to fellowship with so we can fulfill the will of
    God in 2 Corinthians 6:14-17?

    I'm not just quoting verses cause I'm bored for a computer pen pal. Equally yoking with real Christians means something to me cause I'm a real bible believer
    that believes 2 Corinthians 6:14-17!!!

    If these 5 bible verses don't mean anything particularly to you then we must not be a pair for heaven.

    If your freaking out on why I'm testing you out with the book then the book is not telling you why I am cause your not one of his.

    Any bible believers in Thessalonians? Know those that labor among you.
    What about Amos 3:3?
    What about Psalms 133:1?
    What about Matthew 5:19-20?

    All these books encourage me to get in your business and test you out with the book enough.

    What too many call unity in Christianity today is fake.
    Man knows that if people disagree on anything they are not unified people but they allow it and call it unity anyway when it comes to Christianity.

    What natural or spiritual person would call the pro life group and the abortion group a unified group if they decide to have meetings together?

    What unity is there if you have a pair team with both evolution believers and creation believers bumping into each other ?

    What unity is there if a gay activist group decides to bump into a group that formally protests gay marriages in the streets of the White House?

    People think your crazy to endorse education if you say a elementary education or a kindergarden education is enough?

    Somehow Christianity is done like that when it comes to the 66 books of the bible.

    Why endorse Christianity if theirs not an absolute true teaching only for every believer only in the 66 books of the bible with every verse?

    It's more acceptable to tolerate philosophy of choice than tolerance of truth only.

    If the ignorant people mainly did this we could reconcile with people and resolve this problem quote well.

    To the contrary the phonies mainly do this cause they have a unbelief problem.

    It's time for unity without the phonies for a change.

    I know many have a problem with Paul and Peter talking about jewelry,
    apparel and church leadership. It's my hope that you don't have a problem with this. It's my hope that you only want to be in bible agreement with those that don't have a bible problem with Paul and Peter talking about these 3 things.
    I know many have a bible problem with Paul talking about divorce and remmarriage. It's my hope that you don't have a bible problem with Paul talking about divorce and remmarriage. It's my hope that you only want to be in bible agreement with those that don't have a bible probelm with Paul talking about divorce and remarriage. It's my hope that you only want to be around those that don't have a bible problem with Paul saying that all scripture is for doctrine, rebuke, etc. It's my hope that you only want to be around those that don't have a bible problem with Peter saying that no scripture can be privately intrepreted correctly with wisdom of man. It's my hope that you only want to be around people like this cause you really believe what Paul said about an equal yoke of fellowship with believers only and not phonies and scholars only.
     
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    I'm not sure what to say...this is funny :laugh:

    Tonytony...there is no need to continue reminding us that you don't have a doctorate....I think that is clear in your grammar. But then again...who am I to talk, I just started a sentence with "But".

    ummmmm....I think I'm with most people when I ask:

    What on earth are you talking about? Seriously....go back and reread your posts. I have this image of a person talking 8 million words a minute with a twitch in their neck (notice "their", not "they're").

    "Who got the courage to just say if you believe the teaching in these verses"

    WHAT!?
     
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    Who is it? It sure ain't me.:laugh:
     
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    Tony, may I suggest a mild sedative...
     
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    Proverbs 3:11-12 (KJV1611 Edition):
    My sonne, despise not the chastening
    of the Lord: neither be weary of his correction.
    12 For whom the Lord loueth, he correcteth,
    euen as a father the sonne, in whom he delighteth.


    Please don't despise the one whom God has
    sent to you to bear the correction.
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Tonytony: //The intellectuals and grammar scholars
    are too much for God.//

    Perchance one dabbles in projection?
    God is smarter than the intellectuals,
    and God dispaches grammar scholars
    by the gross (a dozen dozen).
    Nothing is too much for God.
     
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    Tonytony, I didn't get past the crude, vulgar phrase dan e brought up. If you are a Bible believer, and a smart one at that, please refrain from using potty mouth slang on a Christian board, 'kay?
     
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    Tonytony:
    You missed what they mean to me, not understanding
    (many PHDs would understand) what I was saying.
    For you see, I gave you a Bible test. People who belong
    to God are trainable: realizing that God can teach them
    things even using LOST FOLKS.

    Have you ever been called a 'self-righeous hypocrite'?
    I have - more times then one can mark on two hands.
    I don't think I am, but evidently they did.

    Tonytony:
    Revelation 19:14 (KJV1611 Edition):
    And the armies which were in heauen
    followed him vpon white horses,
    clothed in fine linnen, white and cleane.


    I hope I get to ride close to CAPT SBCPreacher
    and CPL Amy.G in these Armies of the Living God.
    This will be a miracle - I don't know how to ride a horse.
     
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    Let me see if I've got this straight [and please tell me if I'm wrong]:

    Unless I'm in total agreement with each and every one of tonytony's perspectives on God's Word, I'm not a saved person.

    Hmmmm.
     
  19. Ed Edwards

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    But you gotta guess his belief, for he has yet to
    share what it is in any direct manner.

    I know when I was a school marm, I found
    out that I was frequently writing test questions
    that basically asked:
    Guess what I'm thinking about.

    (Say ktn4eg, now that you have hit the big SIX OUGHT -
    do you usually claim the 'senior discount' when you can?
    I know I have a lot since I hit 55.)
     
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    You were a very cruel school marm, Ed. :laugh:
     
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