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Any Verse For Verse Bible Believers?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by tonytony, Apr 24, 2007.

  1. tonytony

    tonytony New Member

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    Wow!!!

    Intellectuals and grammar scholars are at it again.

    I just know I'm a real bible believer that's a sheep of God.
    I don't know what people are but it's a believer's business to know what they are.

    My bible tells me that 2 can't walk together unless they have agreement.
    (Amos 3:3) (Psalms 133:1) (2 Corinthians 6:14-17)

    Anybody agree with the bible that you have to take off your jewelry and have
    hygiene and attire like the bible say?
    (1 Timothy 2:9-14)

    Anybody agree with the bible that you to have church leadership God's way?
    (1 Timothy 2:9-14) (Matthew 15:14)

    I'm not bold enough to have my own doctrine like intellectuals and grammar
    scholars do. ( Revelation 22:18-19) (2 Peter 1:20-21) (Matthew 5:19-20)

    If your into the bible doctrine of God only then confirm it by your reaction to the above scriptures.

    No Ph. D. education to understand that. Prove what you are. Phonies fake all the time into the right scriptures test them out.

    Obviously the phonies fake like they a believer until you test them out with Paul and Peter's teaching enough. ( 1Timothy 2:9-14) (1 Peter 3)(Romans 7:2-3).

    Anybody can talk a good talk and even impress with a cute biography testimony.

    The proof in found in the bible verses that phonies hate.

    Better than the phonies or you really a bible believer?

    Anybody can say they not phony but a phony will despise God's teaching on
    jewelry, attire, hygiene and church leadership, etc. ( 1 Timothy 2:9-14)
    (Matthew 5:19-20)

    Spill your guts out with details and confirm whether you believe what God is
    saying on this subject matter.

    That's all the Ph. D. education to figure out when coming to this computer room.

    Sure the critics will be critics. That's not my problem.

    Only real critic here is an intellectual and grammar scholar critic as well as a phony that wants to play around with computer pen pals here only.
     
  2. Amy.G

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    It is not a sin to wear jewelry.
    Luke 15:22
    But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put [it] on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on [his] feet:

    Jewelry is not sinful. A bragging attitude is sinful.
    1Ti 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
    1Ti 2:10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

    Don't know what the hygiene part means.

    Agree.

    Did I pass? Am I one of God's sheep now? I thought I only needed faith in the shed blood of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to save me and reconcile me to the Father. But, I guess you learn something new everyday!:)
     
  3. webdog

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    Thank you, finaly something I understand...
    Better than ignorant drop-outs...I guess.
    I agree. I know what I am.
    Define "walk together".
    You mean like you say? I fail to see where that Scripture damns those with BO, or those (including me) who wear a wedding ring to hell.
    Agree.
    I'm afraid you have proved otherwise.
    Did I pass?
    Agreed...Holy Spirit is enough.
    Back to speaking in tongues? :)
    I'd be impressed if you could put three sentences together that made sense...
    :confused:
    Praise God He says it a lot clearer than you do!
    :confused:
    Clearly...I'd say easy to understand posts and grammar may be a little bit of a problem, though.
    Oh, yeah! Well, teachers hand tree scuba diving playground room seeing how only apes stink hair people grin! Take that!
     
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    I'm done here.

    We have a Church of God down the road. I can get all the gibberish I want there...and they have free coffee.
     
  5. SBCPreacher

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    1. It's "like the Bible says."
    2. Best I can remember, men in the Bible times wore robes - not pants. So, set the example for us - get rid of your pants and only wear robes!

    A little biblical (and grammar) education would do you a whole lot of good.
     
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    Does that mean Hugh Hefner is a Bible follower? :D
     
  7. Amy.G

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    Yeah, I second that!

    I think.

    :laugh:
     
  8. tonytony

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    Okay let's deal with Peter and Paul talking:

    1 Peter 3
    1 Timothy 2:9-14


    They encouraged hygiene and attire that's mature and simple.
    Nothing in the book that says Christian men must wear a robe only.
    Nothing in the book that says Christian men must wear pants only.
    It's more than 100% clear that the wearing of jewelry is discouraged.
    It's more than 100% clear that expensive attire is discouraged.
    It's more than 100% clear that flattery attire and flattery hygiene with anything on is discouraged.
    The natural parable of the father and the son your referring to is a spiritual comparision of the spiritual Father giving his blacksliding children an opportunity to have a spiritual inheritance with him.
    You may recall a bible verse that talks about how a natural father or parent gives generous gifts to their natural child.
    Jesus just wanted his children to know he's much better than a natural parent that's generous with gifts.
    A ring was just used as an example of a gift that a natural carnal person gives and wears only.
    If spiritual born again people could wear them them then Jesus would have rebuked Peter and Paul for discouraging the wearing of jewelry.
    Jesus was bold enough to rebuke Peter when you struck a man in the ear for him.
    Think Jesus would have forgot to rebuke the teaching against jewelry if it's unlawful to?
    Jesus rebuked Peter when he thought he had a Ph. D. degree in having courage and loyalty to him?
    Sure Peter took a man's ear off for him but he prophesied his betrayal of him 3 times.
    Still think Jesus forgot to rebuke the teaching against jewelry if it's unlawful to?
    Jesus rebuked Paul (Saul) on the road to Damascus when he fell off a beast and had him blind a while.
    Still think Jesus forgot to rebuke the teaching against jewelry if it's unlawful to?
    The Pharisees we're rebuked when they had teaching in opposition to Jesus now.
    Examples are the old law ordinances as well as the doctrine of circumcision.
    Old law must be old law only.
    New law must be new law only.
    That's why Jesus said he came not to destroy the law but fufill it.

    Remember what Matthew said in Matthew 15:14 ?

    You break the least of the commandments and teach men to do the same then you will be the least in the kingdom.
    That's a very heavy statement.
    Least would be anything outside the greatest 2 commandments.
    A person say wearing jewelry is okay and then okay others doing it is vulnerable to being the least in the kingdom.

    God said it in the book. Read and find out for yourself.
    Tony only telling you what the book says.
    The spiritual attack is not really against Tony.
    It's really an unbelieving spirit and attack against God's Word.
    Anybody fighting God's Word has an argument with God only.
    God don't give his people a spiritual license to make up stuff people can believe.
    If he did then Peter has got to be rebuked when he wrote 2 Peter 1:20-21.
    If he did then John has got to be rebuked when he wrote Revelations 22:18-19.
    Only God's sheep have God's bible revelation cause they his only. John 10.
    God don't use celebrities, grammar scholars and intellectuals too much for bible revelation.
    1 Corinthians 1:26 is information to back my mouth up.
    Any expert and celebrity can talk trash.
    The bible book is all we need to talk about holiness and salvation.
    People say it's because of grace that you live a holy life like God say only.
    Please be warned that grace can run out without a holy life like God say too.
    Romans 6:1 is information to back my mouth up.
    Grace gives you a mind to live holy but no holiness no grace too.
    Again Romans 6:1 is information to back my mouth up.
    People say they saved by grace only.
    Grace only is responsible for giving you a mind to be holy and saved but you need to be holy to have grace or salvation too.
    Since holiness and grace are tag team buddies then grace plus holiness equals salvation only.
    Again Romans 6:1 is information to back my mouth up.
    Both Ephesians 2:8 and Romans 6:1 is information to back my mouth up.
    Any celebrity and expert can be a 1 verse bible scholar.
    Not every expert is a total bible scholar enough.
    2 Timothy 3:16 is information to back my mouth up.
    Any celebrity and expert can quote 20 or 30 verses.
    Not every celebrity and expert can rightly divide God's Word.
    2 Timothy 2:15 is information to back my mouth up.

    Normally God really uses despised people with less wit and stature.
    1 Corinithians 1:26 is information to back my mouth up.
     
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    We have another "If you don't agree with me...you don't agree with God" person. :rolleyes:
     
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    uhhhhh.......Dan is still confused, but I don't have a Ph.d, so that sounds like brownie points for me! I mean....for Dan!
     
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    Hey! I got you beat - I don't have TWO Ph.Ds :wavey:

    I have about three each ½s of a Master's Degree.
    Of Course, in this example ½ + ½ + ½ = zero, nada, zilch, nothing.

    Ah well I have two bachelors degrees.
    My name is Ed Edwards (EE) my two bachelor degrees
    are in Education and Electrical Engineering:
    B.S.Ed (1969) & B.S.EE (1975).

    ((for the humor imparied /HI!/
    my initals are 'EE', my short first name is 'Ed'
    My two degrees contain my initials and my first
    name. Tee Hee* ))

    * 1984-1990 smilies weren't very complex.
    It was the 300 Baud Modems -- Compare to 100,000
    Baud cable modems of today.
     
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    Tonytony: //God don't use celebrities, grammar scholars
    and intellectuals too much for bible revelation.
    1 Corinthians 1:26 is information to back my mouth up.//

    1 Corinthians 1:27 (KJV1611 Edition):
    But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world,
    to confound the wise: and God hath chosen
    the weake things of the world, to confound
    the things which are mighty:


    Note the Bible says 'foolish things' not 'foolish people'.

    Again, someone has TOTALLY MISSED the truth of God
    I've preached:
    To communicate to somone you have to
    speak/write/communicate using methods that the hearer
    understands.

    I pray every day for a College Graduate
    Master of Divinity holder in Montana translating the Old
    Testament into the Western Apache language.
    He knows Western Apache, English, Hebrew, and Greek.

    I pray every day every day for a Doctor in Singapore
    who prefers the Bible in his native
    language: New INTERNATIONAL Version (NIV).
     
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    Ecclefiafticus XXXI:20 (KJV1611 Edition):

    Sound sleep commeth of moderate eating:
    he riseth early, and his wits are with him,
    but the paine of watching and choller,
    and pangs of the bellie are with an
    vunsatiable man.

    What does the English 'choller' mean here?
    (I don't know, all my resources don't mention
    this word. 'Choller' isn't in Webster's 1828
    Dictionary. 'Choller' isn't in dictionary.com .)

    Tonytony: // Not every celebrity and expert
    can rightly divide God's Word.
    2 Timothy 2:15 is information to back my mouth up.//

    'Divide' are you sure you shouldn't multiply?

    2 Corinthians 9:10 (KJV1611 Edition):
    Now he that ministreth seede to the sower,
    both minister bread for your foode,
    and multiply your seede sowen,
    and encrease the fruites of your righteousnesse)
     
  14. tonytony

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    Allow me to make a correction:

    Intended on mentioning Matthew 5:19-20 instead of Matthew 15:14 when I
    spoke on the least of God's commandments broken and taught contrary to truth.

    Well the intellectuals love to ignore and despise 1 Corinthians 1:26 ?

    Instead that want to build their resume with 1 Corinthians 1:27 ?

    Verse 27 only brings out verse 26 more.

    The cross of Christ is foolishness to a carnal unbeliever.

    Choosing a murderer like Paul is overwhelming to an intellectual.

    Choosing a terrible speaker like Moses is overwhelming to an intellectual.

    Choosing a person with a boyish looking face like David is overwhelming to an intellectual.

    I'm a living witness people can assume your a leader and formally educated person in the gospel of Christ when it's only the credit of his Holy Spirit revealing everything. Very overwhelming to an intellectual.

    Jesus not even a teenager and he's an intellectual hero for people . Overwhelming to the intellectuals that he shamed and made envy him.

    Anything exalted has got to be abased.

    Anything abased has got to be exalted.

    That's God law of spritual nature.

    If you humble yourself he will exalt you in due time?
     
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    tonytony, if you'd like to discuss something, why don't you stay around and discuss it? Instead, you post and leave.
    It seems to me your main beef is with people who are educated, but I really don't "get" your rantings. Maybe I'm not educated enough! :laugh:
     
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    Tonytony: //If you humble yourself he will exalt you in due time?//

    Yes God will.
    And 55 years ago I was humble and accepted Jesus
    as my Lord -- He immediately became my Savior.
    Today I'm exalted in Christ
    \o/ Glory to the Lord \o/
    \o/ Praise be to Jesus \o/

    (Caveat: the only Glory I have is IN CHRIST. Amen!)
     
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    Assume your a verse for verse bible believer.

    If your not I don't know why your here.

    Can't figure out why somebody would be bored for a computer pen pal here.

    Whatever the bible says about any issue it's always good enough for me.

    Nothing phony about me saying I'm a verse for verse bible believer.

    I'm not into doctrine of my own and don't want doctrine of man .

    Only into the doctrine of God.

    Only into people that are into the doctrine of God only.

    This only make sense to you if you have his Holy Spirit.

    The Holy Spirit don't give his people made up doctrine and philosophy of their own.

    The Word or the bible is his Holy Spirit.

    To despise the Word is to despise the Holy Spirit.

    To despise the Holy Spirit is to despise life as a believer.

    John 6:63 is information to back my mouth up.

    If 1 Corinthians 1:26 speaks against many celebrities and intellectuals then I'll say the same even if I'm accused of calling Jesus a hater of people with higher education, etc.

    He speaks against grammar scholars that like to find fault in the bible having inappropriate use with English grammar.

    Matthew said not one jot or tittle shall pass from the law until all be fulfilled.

    Sure you'll find a verse in the bible that starts a sentence with the word And.

    So what!!

    As a matter of fact the English rules with conjunctions and verbs are not always followed in the bible.

    So what again!!!

    John said if you add or take away from the prophecy of the book you got a serious thing coming for the bad.

    So why be a radical grammar editor and critic and make up bibles like we doing God some smarter good?

    Even the King James [Moderator Note: You are not allowed to disparage the Word of God by calling other versions derogatory names.]

    Intellectuals normally fight against the bible cause carnal wit is in opposition to the Holy Spirit.

    Who not calling bible believers in Romans 7:2-3 haters?

    Who calling haters in Romans 7:2-3 unbelievers only ?

    Who really not a child of the father of lies ( John 8:44) ?

    Who really a part of God's family only ( 2 Corinthians 6:14-17)?

    Who really fit in with his people only ( 2 Corinthians 6:14-17)?

    Who really of the truth (John 14:6) ?

    Who calling phonies unbelievers only ( John 8:44) ?
     
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    Ah, now I get it. Another KJVO argument.:BangHead:
     
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    Oh boy. YOu would like to think after being told to type a simple plain post it would sink in. Instead we get "second verse, same as the first".
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    If you are a verse for verse believer why don't
    you believe this verse?

    Proverbs 3:11 (KJV1611 Edition):
    My sonne, despise not the chastening of the Lord:
    neither be weary of his correction.


    Yet you rail aganist me, the one God sent to
    help you.

    Tonytony: //I'm a living witness people can assume your a leader
    and formally educated person in the gospel of Christ
    when it's only the credit of his Holy Spirit revealing
    everything. Very overwhelming to an intellectual.//

    If you were really a living witness you would have said:

    //I'm a living witness people can assume you're a leader
    and formally educated person in the gospel of Christ
    when it's only the credit of his Holy Spirit revealing
    everything. Very overwhelming to an intellectual.//

    What you lack is so simple:
    'your' means 'belongs to 'you'
    'You're' means 'you are'.
    but you kick against God's pricks and fight him?

    Tonytony: //The Word or the bible is his Holy Spirit.//

    It is customary among intellectual Christians and even
    intellectual non-Christisn to honor God's Holy Written
    Word by capatalizing the first letter of 'Bible'.

    God has two 'Word's:

    1. A BOOK: God's Holy Written Word found in numerous
    properly translated Bibles.

    2. A PERSON: God's Holy Living Word found in one person:
    Messiah Jesus.

    Books and Persons are different.
    The Holy Spirit is also a Person but is a different PERSON
    than the Holy Spirit

    The One God is perfect in three persons:
    1. The Father
    2. The Son
    3. The Holy Spirit
     
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