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Anyone willing to help found a NEW Christian nation?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by JeffM, May 24, 2004.

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  1. Pennsylvania Jim

    Pennsylvania Jim New Member

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    Matt, you have sharp scissors. You can cut a single verse out of a bound volume of hundreds of pages. If your hand had slipped just a half an inch you would have acidentally cut out verses 3 and 4, and not have been able to make the same case.
     
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  2. Matt Black

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    Verses 3 and 4 continue to make out the case. The Apostle makes no distinction between God's law and man's in any of those verses.

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
    #102 Matt Black, May 27, 2004
  3. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    What if Muslims decide, on this precedent, that they want to move to Ohio and form a new American Muslim nation?
     
    #103 NaasPreacher (C4K), May 27, 2004
  4. Johnv

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    Or what if Mormons decide they want Utah to be a new nation? Or what if we Southern California SBC Baptists want to break off and found a new nation? What if the Innuits of Alaska want to break off and found a new nation? Or what if Texans want to break off and found a new nation? Oh wait, Texas is a separate nation, so nevermind. [​IMG]
     
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  5. JGrubbs

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    Alaska, now there's an idea...

    The region has more natural resources than they know what to do with; they have a defensible perimeter; the area certainly has less population density than anywhere else.

    If I were inclined to move to establish a new "free state", I would be asking what kind of security alliances Alaska could possibly obtain from Canada and Russia.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #105 JGrubbs, May 27, 2004
  6. Johnv

    Johnv New Member

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    Uhh, I'm trying to imagine what constituted an Alaska Defense Force. An eskimo driving by in a hummer pelting the enemy with frozen fish....
     
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  7. Marcia

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    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    This is kind of an interesting question in light of the fact that Maharishi's group has started Vedic City in Iowa (where his university is) and have their own currency. They are still under the laws of the land, but it's interesting to watch to see what happens. Of course, their goal is to bring enough meditators there to generate peace vibrations so war and crime will decrease. Maharishi is the TM (transcendental meditation) guy for those of you too young to remember the Beatles, or those who might wonder about where the increasingly popular ayuvedic medicine has come from (originally from Hindu beliefs in India but Maharishi has an industry with it and his former disciple, Deepak Chopra, is also marketing it). NIH, incidentally, awarded a grant of $2 million to Maharishi's University:

    SOURCE

    TM, which is very much a religious practice, is now being introduced into some private and charter schools under the guise of being a helpful "technique" for restless students. This is how many religious techniques are infiltrating the culture - in the disguise of science and health.

    Sorry if I went off the subject a bit here. :rolleyes:
     
    #107 Marcia, May 27, 2004
  8. JGrubbs

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    LOL!! [​IMG] [​IMG]

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    #108 JGrubbs, May 27, 2004
  9. Ed Edwards

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    I propose this new motto for the
    church-nation/state of Alaska:

    many are chilled,
    but few are frozed

    [​IMG]
     
    #109 Ed Edwards, May 28, 2004
  10. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    I think every state should be taken over by a different group and secede.

    The SBC nation of Georgia
    The IFB nation of Illinois
    The Muslim nation of Ohio
    The Mormon nation of Utah
    The Roman Catholic nation of Maryland
    The KJVO nation of Arkansas
    The Liberal nation of California
    The Conservative nation of Texas
    etc, etc

    How does that sound?

    (note: names chosen totally at random, NO offence implied ot intended)
     
    #110 NaasPreacher (C4K), May 28, 2004
  11. WallyGator

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    Just wondering:
    Had a friend who read this article. His question to me: Why does every nutty idea or event either start or occur in Texas? Note: He always "pulls my chain" when something like this happens.
    Do you think he could have stumbled on to something? [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
    #111 WallyGator, May 28, 2004
  12. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    I get the distinct feeling that Worldnetdaily is not the most reliable news source?
     
    #112 NaasPreacher (C4K), May 28, 2004
  13. Johnv

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    Does the phrase "tabloid" mean anything? [​IMG] I never take anything in WND unless it's been verified by a mainstream news source.
     
    #113 Johnv, May 28, 2004
  14. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Is this the "Christian" version of the Enquirer?
     
    #114 NaasPreacher (C4K), May 28, 2004
  15. Johnv

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    More like the "Fundamentalist Enquirer". Pretty much, yes.
     
    #115 Johnv, May 28, 2004
  16. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Now THAT is a scary thought ;)
     
    #116 NaasPreacher (C4K), May 28, 2004
  17. JGrubbs

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    It is a good rule of thumb to verify what you are reading from any news source including the mainstream news sources. There have been some crazy things on WND, crazy things on Drudge Report and crazy things on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and FoxNews.
     
    #117 JGrubbs, May 28, 2004
  18. Johnv

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    Quite true. Good point.
     
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  19. mioque

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    "How does that sound?"
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    Argh!!... Some of those violate the baptist distinctives. ;)

    Personally, I don't mind 'christian' political parties, 'christian' countries, depictions of Bible quotes everywhere (allthough I prefer the Song of Songs to the 10 commandments) and even having a 'state church' is fine with me, just as long as it is not a baptist state church.

    The problems only start, when this stuff leaves the symbolic/charming level and people start taking it too seriously.
     
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  20. JeffM

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    I also try to verify everything I read, and because of that, I found the mainstream media very unreliable.

    WND can be quilty of sensationalizing, but they report the news that the "liberal" media won't touch, or don't want us to know.

    I would also like to say that I spent nearly six years in the US Army Special Forces, and most of those six years in PSYOPS. I've studied propaganda very thoroughly and participated in many successful psyops campaigns around the globe.

    I will say without reservation that America is lied to on a daily basis by the likes of CNN and the other alphabet news stations.

    I am not saying EVERYTHING is a lie, but they sprinkle just enough truth to make it go down easy.

    For instance, about 5 years ago, the news (all of them) ran a story about a study Harvard did regarding gun deaths of children. It was strictly an anti-gun piece....and it was alarming to say the least.

    This study, done by Harvard said that since 1964, violent gun deaths of children have doubled each year since. Even I was shocked when I heard the news.

    CNN devoted a whole half-hour show on this and of course invited experts from both sides of the debate.

    One gentleman, who was pro-second Amendment, said the study was a hoax and he was almost laughed out of the studio....until he challenged everyone to do a little math.

    He pulled out a calculator and said:

    "For argument sake, let's say two kids died in 1964 from a gun. Now lets double that each year until last year".

    He came up with more people than the population of the entire world. The studio went silent. He then hit them with more facts, like the study considered 18 years olds "children" and said that most of the violence is perpetrated by gangbangers 15-18.

    This is the kind of lies America is hit with daily and they eat it up, hook line and sinker.

    I've been reading WND since 1997 and I can't recall an instance where one of their stories was debunked.
     
    #120 JeffM, May 28, 2004
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