Apostle Mary Magdalene

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  1. Plain Old Bill

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    On Resurrection Sunday the Discovery channel ran a bunch of programming regarding things of the Bible.The people moderating the programs were either liberal theologins or just plain unbeliever's as far as I could tell.

    Anyhow the program regarding Mary Magdalene tries to put forth the idea that she was not only an apostle but was actually the chief apostle who had many disagreements with Peter.She also had power struggles with Peter and was the person who really started the Christian church.The program also alleged that when the other apostles wanted to know about spiritual matters it was Mary Magdalene that they went to because Jesus had given her some special teaching that He had not shared with the other apostles.
    Is there any legitimate knowledge regarding this?
     
  2. Dr. Bob

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    Garbage. Liberal myth. Absurdities from the Radical Femi-Nazis.

    Anything else?
     
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    More fiction along the same lines as "The Da Vinci Code".

    Time to change to another channel.
     
  4. Plain Old Bill

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    Where do these people get this stuff from? They even tried to show that she wrote a book or letter and thier contention was that is should have been included in the cannon.I thought this would amaze everybody it did me.
     
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    Given Mary Magdalenes importance as portrayed in the passion movie, is it any wonder?
     
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    Discovery channel has more fiction then Barnes and Noble.
     
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    There probably IS truth in that. We already have the Catholic Network and the cult of Mary to worship (er, venerate) her. So Magdalene would not be far off.

    Many pagan religions NEED a "mother figure" or goddess and Christianity is sorely lacking in that. So Mother Mary is added to the godhead.

    Also, many need a "sex" figure - Magdalene meets that need.
     
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    You don't have to go very for from the source to realize the agenda. Just check out who started and owns the Discovery Channel and all their little off springs and you will find nature worshippers.
     
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    Do't keep us in suspenders, Jailer - details.
     
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    Here is one thing:
    John S. Hendricks is the founder, chairman and CEO of Discovery Communications, Inc., the leading global real-world media and entertainment company. Hendricks created the Discovery Channel in 1982 as the first cable network in the United States designed to provide high quality documentary programming enabling people to explore their world and satisfy their natural curiosity.

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    Mr. Hendricks serves on the Board of Directors of a number of non-profit organizations including the American Film Institute, the James Madison Council of the Library of Congress, The Nature Conservancy and the Walter Kaitz Foundation. Mr. Hendricks also serves on the Advisory Board of Lowell Observatory.

    Mr. Hendricks serves on the Board of Directors for TiVo, Inc. He is also a member of the Board of Directors of the National Cable Television Association.

    Previous to 1982, Hendricks founded and served as president of the American Association of University Consultants (AAUC), a private consulting organization specializing in television distribution and marketing of educational programs and services. Hendricks holds a B.A. in History (magna cum laude, 1973) and an honorary doctorate (1991) from the University of Alabama, Huntsville.
     
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    Originally posted by Spirit and Truth:

    Given Mary Magdalenes importance as portrayed in the passion movie, is it any wonder?

    Dr Bob:

    There probably IS truth in that. We already have the Catholic Network and the cult of Mary to worship (er, venerate) her. So Magdalene would not be far off.

    Many pagan religions NEED a "mother figure" or goddess and Christianity is sorely lacking in that. So Mother Mary is added to the godhead.

    S&T:

    The pagans had [have]it, the catholic church has it, and now the Hebrew roots kabbalists have it. The Hebrew word for spirit [ruach] is feminine,so they call the Holy Spirit [Ruach ha Kodesh] the "mother" spirit.
     
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    The apocryphal "gospels" of Philip and Mary contain alot of weird stuff. This certainly is the work of gnostic groups and cannot be counted on for much of anything. The gospel of Philip contains a reference to Jesus kissing Mary Magdalene on the mouth - likely representing the imparting of some secret knowledge to her.

    I wouldn't say these are "liberal myths" - these documents were manufactured to support the gnostic cause. Alot of the stuff at Nag Hamadi was pretty off the wall.

    Also, the catholic church does not support this stuff either!!
     
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    Mary Magdalene was a woman who followed Jesus, and that's it. Nothing extraordinary, nothing spectacular.

    I had heard about the show before. I thought it was a load of bunk then, and I guess I really haven't changed my mind about.

    It's still bunk.

    In Christ,
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  14. Plain Old Bill

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    Well Bro. Trotter,
    I saw it. That makes me an eye witness.So I can say with some authority you are right.If you have'nt read Charles Meadows statement.Like I say I was wondering where this junk comes from, Charles seems to have the answer.
     
  15. Charles Meadows

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    Hey Bill, this'll freak ya'!!


    "And the companion of the [Savior is] Mary Magdalene. [But Christ loved] her more than [all] the disciples [and used to] kiss her [often] on her [mouth]. The rest of [the disciples were offended] by it [and expressed disapproval]. They said to him, "Why do you love her more than all of us?" The Savior answered and said to them, "Why do I not love you like her? When a blind man and one who sees are both together in darkness, they are no different from one another. When the light comes, then he who sees will see the light, and he who is blind will remain in darkness"

    This was from the "gospel" of Philip. The parentheses represent lacunae (ants ate some of the manuscript!). The original (in coptic) was found at Nag Hamadi with some other weird stuff.

    There are some who see Magdalene as the "beloved disciple" - with the idea being that this is implied since the beloved disciple is never named (hiding the identity since a woman wouldn't be credible).

    This stuff arose out of some of the weird elements of the Johannine church in the second century. John speaks of those who "went of from us..." (1 Jn 2:19) - this likely represents part of the community that held to some unacceptable ideas. Out of the splinter groups from the community came the seeds of various heresies including docetism, gnosticism, and montanism.
     
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    Hey, Charles, is this the same group that started the Jesus married Mary M. myth? I read there's a bunch of that junk in Spain, she supposedly moved there or something.
     
  17. Charles Meadows

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    Lady,

    I'm not sure who REALLY started this. Hippolytus (and later Origen) suggested that Jesus and Mary had a spiritual (not sexual) marriage - the reason being that Jesus had to LIVE every part of our life (including marriage) in order to sanctify it. Others have suggested that in order to have any credibility Jesus would have had to have been married. There are a number of liberal theologians today who espouse this kind of junk!

    The "gospel" of Philip called Mary the "koinonos" of Jesus. One would guess if the author were implying that they were married he would have been explicit and not used a word that just means "companion". I think the gnostic writings were intending to portray Jesus as a gnostic - and suggesting that He was married or sexually involved would not help with this cause! There are a bunch of other works including "gospels" of Mary, Peter, Philip, and Thomas as well as the "Pistis Sophia" and others. All of these are obviously intending to support an agenda. The "gospels" of Peter and Thomas do NOT say much at all about Mary Magdalene - since this would have challenged Peter's position of prominence. Each of these goofy books has an agenda behind it. No wonder the church fathers scroned them so! You can read most of them at www.earlychristianwritings.com.

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    There have been several documentaries on PBS, etc RE:The Shroud of Turin. The shroud proportedly the one that Jesus was wrapped in which has the image of Christ imbedded in it.

    One of the fables has Jesus supposedly married to MM and they even had children (pre-crucifixion).
    I believe there was a similar theme in The Last Temptation of Christ.

    MM had possession of said shroud which was passed around until it made its way to Turin.

    One legend has Leonardo Da Vinci as one of Jesus descendants (along with and several other aristocratic Italian families).

    One documentary compared the image of Christ on the shroud with a DaVinci self portrait and they were the same.

    Superstitious nonsense at best.

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    the discovery channel says that There were never any big floods. They deffinetly need to go to and read the Bible. And they try to say that Jesus never was here on Earth. they try to convience everybody that his ressuerication was just, something a prophet or someone wrote down. Like the constiution wants nothing to do with god. [​IMG]
     
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    TDC and National Geographic have a lot in common.

    Both are big budget.
    Both use beautiful nature scenery.
    Both go 'in-depth' as far as the scientific explanations go.
    Both are very interesting.
    Both are evolution-based.
    Both deny God.

    And I guess that says it all.

    In Christ,
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