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Are all sins equal?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Dale-c, Oct 22, 2009.

  1. Zenas

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    I should have said I believe the answer is NO, based on the cited scripture. It just shows you shouldn't try to type and carry on a conversation at the same time, which is what I was doing.
     
  2. preachinjesus

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    Well, since I'm the one who started it...absolutely not.

    Yeah, this is where we will disagree. I don't believe our sinning condemns us...we are already condemned. Our Sin (capital-S) condemns us. It is our shard sin nature, passed on from Adam that separates us from God.

    There are graver sins than others before God. Look throughout the Scriptures. Some sins are abominations, others (particularly dealing with harming children) are hated by God, in Proverbs we also have the deadliest sins. In the New Testament some are dealt with more harshly.
     
  3. Marcia

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    Sin for a believer is different than for an unbeliever but I think it does affect our rewards in heaven. We don't know exactly what those are, but they are mentioned in the NT. That is probably a topic for another thread.

    You can start that thread if you'd like but I will be out of town from tomorrow until Tuesday so can't participate, at least not until next week sometime, if then. But I'm sure others can put that info (there are some who do not think there are rewards).

    Some think the capacity for enjoying Christ might be part of the reward - the more we love Jesus here, the more we enjoy Him there, and sinning gets in the way of that.
     
  4. ShotGunWillie

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    No....................
     
  5. Hawkins

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    There are sins leading to death, and there are sins not leading to death. In OT, there were the righteous and saints who are not sinless but can still be saved by Law.

    And since people cannot keep God's covenant consistently, their sins lead to death. Nowadays, there is no more righteous, not even one.
     
  6. Tater77

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    I hope you don't like bacon, pork chops or shrimp for that matter !!!!

    Galatians 5:3-4
    3 And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law.

    4 You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.


    Just so you know that this is NOT my opinion but what is written.

    James 2:10
    For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

    If you try to keep the 613 laws of the OT, that is the 603 written by Moses for Israel, not the 10 first given by God, then you will mess the whole thing up with something as small as a single piece of bacon!!!

    The laws of Moses are not to be cherry picked, its all or nothing. Me, I choose Christ :jesus:.
     
  7. Shortandy

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    Isn't James that teaches us that if you break one you are guilty of breaking them all?

    If that is the case why even debate this? If you lie your are also guility of murder and so one and so forth.
     
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    Is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit a greater sin than stealing a pen?
     
  9. Shortandy

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    I guess it depends on your definition of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
     
  10. Johnv

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    Spiritually, no. Both send you to Hell, one not moreso than the other.
     
  11. th1bill

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    If you repent of the blasphemy or for stealing the pen you will be forgiven.
     
  12. Johnv

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    Always wondered, how does one repent of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?

    Repenting of stealing the pen I got: express remorse, ask for forgiveness from the owner and from God, and return the pen to its rightful owner (it's not repentence if you keep it). But blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, not sure what repentence entails.
     
  13. Sakuras

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    John,

    What is "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit"?

    I thought all sins could be forgiven, except when one denies Christ?

    Thank you
     
  14. Marcia

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    But that doesn't mean the sins are equal, just that all sin is offensive to God.
     
  15. Marcia

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    Jesus said no one could be forgiven of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, so there is one sin worse than others.

    I agree with others who think this sin was only able to be committed by those who witnessed the miracles of Christ that attested to Him as the Messiah and yet ascribed those miracles and signs to the devil. They were attributing the power of the Holy Spirit to Satan; that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Those who did that were rejecting Jesus even after they witnessed what He did and heard Him, and they said this power was from Satan.
     
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    ...but one is unforgivable, the other is not. Only one sends you to hell, the other separates you from God and can be forgiven. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit...no forgiveness.
     
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    I think there are different views of sin and sins. We tend to view sin and sins froom our human viewpoint. Then there is God's view of sin and sins. We may categorize sin and sins differently to God.

    One thing is certain. The unpardonable sin, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, is unpardonable on any account. What is it? There are many answers given down through the ages. To my mind, it is rejection of Christ as Saviour from a lost mindset. Only God can know this.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    I agree with you Jim. The unpardonable sin is not blasphemy against God the Father or God the Son, but God the Holy Spirit. It is the Spirit who draws and convicts of sin. To reject the the Spirit is to cut yourself off from God, which by it's very nature cannot be forgiven.
     
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    In regards to salvation, there is no such thing as an unforgivable sin. In regards to righteousness, I suspect that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit can be unforgiveable.
     
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    I'm failing to see the difference. If you can be not forgiven for one sin, there is no salvation.
     
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