Some of my more landmarkish/baptist successionist brethren contend Baptists are NOT protestants. Is this correct? The first English Baptist Church is 400 years old. AD1610. It did NOT arise from the first wave of protesting against errors of Catholicism (like the Lutheran or Presbyterian). Even the Anglican, a little late and for awful reasons, are in the group of real PROTESTANT denominations against Rome. But there was a second wave of protesting, this time against the abuses of both Catholicism AND many of the first-wave Protestant churches. Here the English Baptists are included with separatists, puritans (somewhat) etc. (BTW, to link English Baptists and our polity/doctrine with a host of older European groups that would NOT be even welcome in our churches today is truly fanciful. English Baptists are NOT menonite or albigensian or waldensian or donatist or montanist, et al.) So in a very legitimate sense we ARE very much PROTESTANT. The balcony is open . . .